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Unwanted Blue Box (Not in Layers) in Multiple Illustrator Files

Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

I've seen this box in a few files now (not ones generated by myself but by others) and have not been able to locate where it is in the file, move it, or delete it. It does not confine the content, it doesn't move when the content moves, it's nowhere on the layers....I'm at a loss.

Screen Shot 2019-07-23 at 10.03.23 AM.png

What is it?? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with print tiling, but it looks similar.

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Explorer , Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

I think we figured it out, though it still doesn't make much sense to me. We were using an older version of Illustrator CC but when we used the newest version they disappeared.

Still very curious as to why that is a thing lol but I'm glad we figured it out. And that explains why no one else could see the blue box.

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New Here , Dec 06, 2019 Dec 06, 2019

I realize this is an old topic, but I'm curious. Do you have any Esko plugins you are using in Illustrator? One of my coworkers discovered the the strange blue box could be removed by turning it off in the Esko menu item.

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Community Beginner , Feb 25, 2025 Feb 25, 2025

This is the real answer. Great Job Mark! Go to Esko Menu and Trim and Media box and uncheck the Trim and Medi box checkmark at the bottom of the menu window.

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Community Beginner , Feb 25, 2025 Feb 25, 2025

Window > Esko > Trim and Media Box > Uncheck the "Show Trim and Media Box"

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Community Expert ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Is it still there when you go to View > Preview on CPU?

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Yes it is

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Engaged ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

That looks like a Dieline. the solid line is the actual Die (cut line). The dashed line is the bleed needed. Some clever designers build these things as templates and convert them somehow so they can lock it. That way their clients can't accidentally move or resize the dieline at all and assuring an accurately sized print.

What's cool is just prior to printing, their RIP then searches for and places the invisible die (by name, pms color...).

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

That's really interesting. I've never heard of this before. Do you know of any way to remove this from the Illustrator File?

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Community Expert ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

When was your last computer restart?

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Hm probably a couple days ago

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Community Expert ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

  schrieb

Hm probably a couple days ago

Desktop PCs are not made for this. Restart it first and see if the issue is still there.

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

I tried restarting, but it still appears the same on my computer.

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Adobe Employee ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Hi there,

Thanks for reaching out. I don't think it is a Dieline. According to this post (https://creativepro.com/3-ways-to-make-die-lines-in-adobe-illustrator/ ), Dieline is visible in the layers panel.

I would request if you can share a few more details like:

  • OS (Exact version of Windows/MAC)
  • Version of Illustrator
  • A sample file to test it at our end.

Looking forward to your response!

Regards,

Srishti

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Here are the details you requested:

macOS Sierra Version 10.12.6

Adobe Illustrator CC 2018 (version 23.0.4)

Here is a link to the file. I have only left the blue box in there so it will appear blank in preview but if you need me to add in layers of art or anything let me know:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YpshcbtTLnLX8MKlVkQ8gdfkJV7hbeAu

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Community Expert ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

There's nothing in your file.

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

You can try this link too...maybe it will work. This is partly the reason I'm so frustrated because other people can't see the box, although my other colleague's computer also shows the box in the file.

TWHBEA_Banner.ai - Google Drive

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Engaged ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Right. I mean template more than dieline. The dieline needs to be selectable by the artist. But a template like this can be "hidden" with a script. I have NO idea how, but I see these a lot - especially from billboard manufacturers.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

It looks like you inadvertently switched Drawing Modes to "Draw Inside." This allows you to Draw Inside of the selected object.

Press Shift + D to switch back to Normal Drawing.

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

That didn't work 😕

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Engaged ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Is there any sign of it in channels? Maybe a spot channel is locked?

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Where do I find spot channels in Illustrator?

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Engaged ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Open it up in Acrobat and go to Print Production - Output Preview.

That will show all your channels overall saturation levels in CMYK and list any PMS color saturations.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Now there's outlined type but nothing like your screenshot.

See screenshot below.

Screen Shot 2019-07-23 at 12.48.19 PM.png

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

That's so weird. Thank you for trying to help though!

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Community Expert ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

Do you have another computer? See if the same thing is happening on that computer.

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Explorer ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

I think we figured it out, though it still doesn't make much sense to me. We were using an older version of Illustrator CC but when we used the newest version they disappeared.

Still very curious as to why that is a thing lol but I'm glad we figured it out. And that explains why no one else could see the blue box.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

I know the two blue boxes (blue by default, but the colour can be changed) when creating a pattern with the Pattern Options palette while the options Show Tile Edge and Show Swatch Bounds are turned on.

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Adobe Employee ,
Jul 23, 2019 Jul 23, 2019

I am glad to see that you are all set. Please feel free to update the discussion if you have any further queries.

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