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August 23, 2023
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What does the error "Clipping will be lost on roundtrip to Tiny" mean?

  • August 23, 2023
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It appears that importing or opening any SVG file that has a clip path in it (even ones made in Illustrator) produces the error "Clipping will be lost on roundtrip to Tiny". While there are workarounds and solutions given in other threads, I am curious about what the error actually means - I understand the "Clipping will be lost" bit, but have no clue what "on roundtrip to Tiny" means! If anyone can shed any light on this, it would be greatly appreciated.

Correct answer Monika Gause

Roundtripping generally means that you export an SVG and then open it again in Illustrator.

Tiny is a kind of SVG, that is also not very current specification.

 

Generaklly: Roundtripping SVGs in Illustrator is not a very good idea. Save your workfile as AI. Export should be a one-way-ticket.

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Participant
February 27, 2025

I've run into this multiple times now and it appears to be happening more. The .svg files that this happened on, just recently, opened fine and showed all the clipped images, but 2 of the 4 images disappeared when saved as a .pdf file. If exported as a .jpeg, all images remained. The original file, with the clipped images, was created by another person, using Canva. 

Monika Gause
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Community Expert
February 27, 2025

For Illustrator SVG is not a native file format. It has to be imported, which can cause issues.

 

Before you exported the PDF, what did you do with the file?

Did you check the clipping masks? Were they standard, or probably some clipping mask inside a clipping mask inside a clipping mask?

You would need to clean up the file after importing. And then while you are working on it, do not save it as an SVG file, but as the native AI file format.

Participant
May 28, 2024

A workaround for this:

 

Open the svg in a text editor, copy the code, and paste it in Adobe XD. There you will be able to copy the vector and use it in for example Illustrator.

Monika Gause
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 28, 2024

"Roundtrip to tiny" is not an error, just a friendly reminder. Usually the file will open fine anyway.

Participant
June 19, 2024

Hi Monika, I am editing a file for a client and they have sent an svg. I was going to edit it in Illustrator and have this warning message about clipping will be lost on round trip to tiny.  I can click through it and can make the edits but when I export its kind of pixelated is this because of the warning message and I dont know a way around this?

Monika Gause
Community Expert
Monika GauseCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
August 23, 2023

Roundtripping generally means that you export an SVG and then open it again in Illustrator.

Tiny is a kind of SVG, that is also not very current specification.

 

Generaklly: Roundtripping SVGs in Illustrator is not a very good idea. Save your workfile as AI. Export should be a one-way-ticket.

Participant
May 23, 2024

Ironic. This is the message I get when I open a downloaded svg file from Adobe QR Code Generator and try to open it in Illustrator. 

Monika Gause
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 23, 2024

Just open it anyway. The message can be clicked away. It's not an error, it's a warning.

 

Here's how to clean up your QR code https://youtu.be/KQUrluJ5CU4

You get better QR codes from InDesign.