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May 26, 2012
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Can I change text in a tiff using Illustrator?

  • May 26, 2012
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I have a layout for an ebook with some important black and white bitmap illustrations in tiff., 300 dpi. These has appeared ok on print, but not on screen, reading the same pdf-file. This is partly because there are texts in fontsize 5-6 pt. People tell me I have to convert the drawings, or at least the text, to vector graphics.

Question is now - since at the moment I have CS6 avaiable - can I open these tiff.s in Illustrator, change the text to vector and then save in a format, that can be inserted in the Word2010 layout? (You might wonder why I use Word, but it was a question of economy, when the project was started up). Or are there other ways? Thanks for any answers!

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    Participating Frequently
    October 21, 2016

    Yes you can but not directly, I use FontForge as a bridge to Illustrator. Download FontForge (if you're on a mac you'll need to be running X11, FontForge will run under Quartz - the application menu will run under the Quartz menu). Open the desired .TTF file and it will load into FontForge. For me I've had to select the individual font which opens in a design window. From here you can choose to EXPORT and save in any of the following AI friendly formats: EPS, SVG, PDF, etc. It seems to be a one at a time process but I've only needed it for a symbols file to manipulate one or two.  I've had to simplify the paths in a few instances but that based on initial files.

    JETalmage
    Inspiring
    May 26, 2012

    People tell me I have to convert the drawings, or at least the text, to vector graphics.

    No, no, no.

    First, TIFF is a raster image format. It contains no text. It only contains pixels. So when you say your TIFF image "contains text", all you are really saying is that it has some arrangements of pixels that look like letters.

    Second, vector graphics are just shapes defined mathematically. Yes, the character shapes contained in (most) fonts are vector graphics. But that's not all there is to making them text. So when one says that "text is vector", all one is really saying is that fonts contain vector paths that look like letters. But just having vector paths that are shaped like letters is not the same as having editable text.

    Actual text is an object into which you can type using your keyboard to cause your operating system to retrieve and display from the font file the particular vector path that is shaped like the letter that corresponds to the key you press. So there's much more to an actual text object than just the image on your screen that looks like the characters.

    There are optical character recognition (OCR) programs which try to programmatically "recognize" the arrangements of adjacent pixels in a raster image as text characters, and then create actual text objects containing those characters. OCR is far from perfect and is dependent upon good-quality raster images. Illustrator does not contain any OCR feature.

    Whomever is telling you otherwise is confusing autotracing with OCR. Autotracing is another kind of program that merely tries to draw vector paths around areas of same-colored pixels. So although you can use an autotracing program to create vector paths that are similar in shape to the clumps of pixels that you are calling "text" in your image, the result will no more be actual text that you can edit than is the raster bitmap you started with.

    Acrobat Pro, on the other hand, does have a built-in OCR feature. And, Acrobat Pro can also (at least try to) export a PDF as a Word file. So you may have some success with that. But don't expect miracles. How successful you are in this attempt highly depends on the quality of the original raster image. The resulting Word document is often not at all built the way (number and arrangement of objects) you would actually build it from scratch in Word. So how usefully-editable the resulting Word document is, is dependent upon the details of the specific case.

    JET

    ImumboAuthor
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    May 28, 2012

    Thank you for taking the time with the elaborate descriptions on OCR/autotracing. I the meantime I´ve come to the conclusion, that under all circumstances 5-6 points is simply to small, which means that I have to replace the existing texts with larger sized text - in vector grahics. From the two answers I got here, I guess I have to move on to Photoshop.  

    JETalmage
    Inspiring
    May 28, 2012

    5-6 points is simply to small

    That's why--aside from the obvious need for editability--when receiving DXF exports from CAD software, I always specify that the drawings should be exported with live text and no balloons on callouts. So if I receive an E-size drawing that has to be reworked for publication size (drafters often have no concept of the need for space efficiency in their drawings), I can Select>Object>Text Objects, and then apply the appropriate Character or Paragraph Style in one move.

    JET

    Jongware
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    Community Expert
    May 26, 2012

    TIFF is a bitmap format, and Illustrator cannot edit bitmaps. Use Photoshop, or the closest available analog. Ask in the Photoshop forum how to do your task.

    (There are ways to *change* TIFFs with Illustrator -- paste a rectangle over the old text, type in the new one, and export to TIFF again -- but that is not the best, or even a 'good' way. Compare it to using a screwdriver to hit nails with.)

    ImumboAuthor
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    May 28, 2012

    Ok, I´ll try Photoshop. Thanks!