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DCS 2.0 no longer supported in Illustrator CC 2018?

  • October 26, 2017
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I updated from Illustrator CC 2017 to 2018 a couple of days ago. I am in the middle of a project where I need to place multi-channel Photoshop DCS 2.0 EPS files into a layout created in Illustrator. Illustrator 2017 supported them and displayed the DCS-2 files correctly in my layout. Illustrator 2018 does not display them at all. They appear as empty frames. I'm aware that most people believe this file format to be irrelevant, but I can't achieve the same artistic effect without using Photoshop spot channels (no CMYK)—so the DCS 2.0 file format is valid in this case. Can someone verify for me that DCS-2 is indeed being phased out and is no longer supported in Illustrator CC 2018, or is this just a bug that will be worked out with an update? Thanks.

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    Correct answer Ton Frederiks

    The problem is reported here (and you can add your vote):

    Image Not Visible/Blank When Placing EPS Files into new file – Adobe Illustrator Feedback

    See also this thread:

    Problems Placing Photoshop DCS 2.0 (eps) files

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    Legend
    June 26, 2018

    I disagree. Containing multiple EPS files is not something that the EPS file format allows, and I've read it in some detail. A DCS2 file is called an EPS and it is absolutely NOT a valid or useful EPS. (It may sometimes be valid but it isn't useful because when it is valid the plates are rendered as four greyscale overlays at once). The point is that an app designed to handle EPS will not also handle DCS2 unless it ALSO has DCS2 programming. This can be taken away or added quite separately. It's important to manage expectations.

    Ton Frederiks
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    Community Expert
    June 26, 2018

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Test+Screen+Name  wrote

    I disagree. Containing multiple EPS files is not something that the EPS file format allows, and I've read it in some detail. A DCS2 file is called an EPS and it is absolutely NOT a valid or useful EPS. (It may sometimes be valid but it isn't useful because when it is valid the plates are rendered as four greyscale overlays at once). The point is that an app designed to handle EPS will not also handle DCS2 unless it ALSO has DCS2 programming. This can be taken away or added quite separately. It's important to manage expectations.

    I agree that it is an outdated format, but the problem has already been solved in an update.

    Illustrator supports DCS EPS files.

    Participating Frequently
    June 26, 2018

    Thank you for your reply. DCS 2.0 is very useful to people like myself. I own a screen printing company. If an outside third party app wants to make output through a vector app possible with the ability to quickly add vector elements as well, eps is their only option. Unlike what was mentioned about four grayscale channels, with simulated process it is often way more channels and the beautiful thing about the albeit outdated dcs 2.0 is it brings into Illustrator all the channels and if vector elements are added they can be added with the document spot palette that is placed/imported with the dcs 2.0. If the vector is put above the raster process image the raster image all the way up to 15 or more plates are automatically knocked out accordingly.  It sees the grayscale data as spot objects.  A psd can be brought in the same way but programs not owned by Adobe can’t save a psd. So if sim process separations done in Corel or Separation Studio separations are sent to a printer it works so well. Output is better through Illustrator and adding anything in Ps requires manual knockouts channel by channel. It isn’t useful to many designers but in the print industry worldwide it is valuable.

    Participating Frequently
    June 26, 2018

    Why does Ps still save DCS 2.0?

    Participating Frequently
    June 26, 2018

    I know what you mean and again it works properly everyday. Thanks though. I added to another reply so you may have not seen any of that. Thanks so much!

    Legend
    June 26, 2018

    A DCS2 File has the extension EPS. By “support” I mean “work properly“. Only an app made to recognise DCS2 files )in a thing named EPS) will handle it correctly.

    Participating Frequently
    June 26, 2018

    What is the file extension for a dcs 2.0?  Does it contain postscript data for cross platform use?  I don’t need support. I’m trying to let screen printers know they can use dcs 2.0 eps files in Illustrator 2018. Because this thread has people thinking they cannot.  Someone recently had me make a YouTube video showing them workarounds then we realized they had just been misinformed by this. They read this and didn’t try to use their file in Illustrator. I was still primarily using 2017 at the time so I showed them a few things but they could’ve just placed the file. You can use any of the workarounds described in the thread but you can place dcs 2.0 eps files in Illustrator 2018. Have a good day!

    Legend
    June 26, 2018

    No, it is NOT a type of EPS. This is very important. It is a different file type which happens to be called EPS. Inventing DCS2 didn't change the rules of EPS. The most perfect, complete EPS support will not give you DCS2 support so you have to ask for the right thing.

    Ton Frederiks
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    June 26, 2018

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Test+Screen+Name  wrote

    No, it is NOT a type of EPS. This is very important. It is a different file type which happens to be called EPS. Inventing DCS2 didn't change the rules of EPS. The most perfect, complete EPS support will not give you DCS2 support so you have to ask for the right thing.

    It smells like an EPS, it has the .eps extension, it contains multiple EPS files.

    Enough reason to name it a type of EPS.

    The EPS DCS file format

    Participating Frequently
    June 26, 2018

    And actually they are both eps. Eps is eps and dcs 2.0 is a type of eps. A dcs 2.0 has an .eps extension because it‘s an encapsulated postscript file. The difference is in use primarily. Screen printers use dcs 2.0 eps files to bring raster images, color separated into vector apps with spot color properties for the purpose of output and to add vector elements. Eps is an adequate description of dcs 2.0 just not detailed. Have a good one!

    Participating Frequently
    June 26, 2018

    True. I should have said eps dcs 2.0 support in vector programs. But I think most people understand we are talking about eps dcs 2.0. I will change it though if it allows editing.  It won’t allow an edit but the whole post and thread is about dcs 2.0 so hopefully others can keep up. We know what is needed even if I didn’t explain it simplified enough. Basically, the best other companies can do is save eps. It is a cross platform solution. So we need specifically the dcs 2.0 in screen printing sim process and that is pretty much what I thought the conversation was concerning. Color separations. Anyway You can place a dcs 2.0 in Illustrator. So allow this to correct that record.

    Legend
    June 26, 2018

    I understand your workflow but you wrote “they need EPS support”

    Participating Frequently
    June 26, 2018

    I know what I am explaining. I use dcs 2.0 everyday. Would you like a link to a video of me saving one and placing it to use spot channels in 2018 Illustrator?