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In CMYK document, freeform gradient is producing RGB colors

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I've just upgraded to Catalina 10.15.7 and AICC 2020 24.3.0.

 

I'm in a CMYK document, and my swatches, all self-created, are global CMYK. I've made a freeform gradient, then asked the swatches panel to Add Used Colors. The added colors are clearly from the gradient. They appear in the panel as global RGB. I can, one-by-one, successfully convert the RGB swatches to CMYK, but that begs the questions.

 

Am I doing something wrong? Can anyone replicate this? Do we know why it might happen? Just a quirk in the freeform gradient or something more serious? What effect if any would it have in a print scenario? I should add, I get the same results in new documents.

 

Thank you in advance.

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It's the "Content aware defaults".

Sorry - German version, I just most of the time forget how these things are called in English. I only remember where they are. For about 20 things I also know the shortcut.

 

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In CMYK document, freeform gradient is producing RGB colors

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I've just upgraded to Catalina 10.15.7 and AICC 2020 24.3.0.

 

I'm in a CMYK document, and my swatches, all self-created, are global CMYK. I've made a freeform gradient, then asked the swatches panel to Add Used Colors. The added colors are clearly from the gradient. They appear in the panel as global RGB. I can, one-by-one, successfully convert the RGB swatches to CMYK, but that begs the questions.

 

Am I doing something wrong? Can anyone replicate this? Do we know why it might happen? Just a quirk in the freeform gradient or something more serious? What effect if any would it have in a print scenario? I should add, I get the same results in new documents.

 

Thank you in advance.

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Correct answer by Monika Gause | Adobe Community Professional

It's the "Content aware defaults".

Sorry - German version, I just most of the time forget how these things are called in English. I only remember where they are. For about 20 things I also know the shortcut.

 

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I also just updgraded to Catalina & AI 24.3, but in doing a test could not replicate your issue. 

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Can you please show a screenshot of where you are seeing RGB and confirm your document color mode is set to CMYK. The Add Used Colors from swatches flyour always creates the colors in the document color mode your are in. If you manually switched color mode in swatches panel to RGB after suing add used colors, you could have created that situation. 

 

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Thanks, Mike. Screenshot below.

 

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This freeform gradient was made most definitely in a CMYK color mode document (I never use RGB). Never switched color modes manually. The gradient was made in a fresh CMYK document (you can see the CMYK colors in the Swatches Panel that are present when my new documents are opened). I made the gradient by filling the simple rectangle with the default black-to-white linear gradient (both CMYK). I then converted to a freeform gradient (by clicking the freeform icon). I then asked the Panel to Add Used Colors.

 

You can see that the Swatches Panel has added the colors in the gradient as RGB. You can also see the RGB format in the on-screen editing color dialogue that I called by clicking on the lower right gradient point in the rectangle.

 

It's a mystery I don't understand and want to fix. Hope you or anyone can help.

 

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Further experimentation that's got me relieved but more confused at the same time:

If I save the freeform document as a PDF (with the RGB colors assigned in Illustrator's Swatches Panel as discussed above), the PDF separations preview shows only CMYK colors. There are no RGB colors. This is true with all of these PDF Presets:

Illustrator Default

High Quality Print

Press Quality

PDF/X-4)

Sorry to be a pest, but is there anyone who can replicate this on Catalina 10.15.7 and AICC2020 24.3.0? If not, can anyone suggest a way to remedy this?

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Can you check if the context sensitive options are turned on in the preferences > general?

 

I have checked in Illustrator 2021 and this simply doesn't happen.

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Just found this, but it's from 2018. 

 

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Monika, I'm embarrassed to say I'm not sure which of the Preferences>General in 24.3.0 are "context-sensitive options." Nothing labeled there as such, but I'm assuming you're referring to several different individual options. Can you tell me which ones you mean? I'm eager to try anything.

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It's the "Content aware defaults".

Sorry - German version, I just most of the time forget how these things are called in English. I only remember where they are. For about 20 things I also know the shortcut.

 

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