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Inspiring
June 26, 2020
Question

Lineweight becoming too thin when file saved as a PDF

  • June 26, 2020
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Howdy:

I'm drawing some coloring book pages for a client. They complained that some of the linework was too thin when they printed the page. So I went in and thickened the lines, saved the file as a PDF and re-sent it, and they said the lines looked exactly the same as before. I noticed the lines did indeed look thinner if I opened the PDF in Acrobat or if I placed it inside a Word file. Here's a screenshot showing the same file in the Illustrator window (left) next to the Microsoft Word window (right). You can see the lines in Word are thinner (it's especially noticeable in the little squirrel at the left, on the tree trunk).

Most of these lines are drawn with a brush and stroked, so I tried expanding all those lines and resaving to the PDF (at Press Quality)--no difference. I tried resaving as an EPS and importing that into Word--no difference.

I don't know how to make the lines the thickness they want, because what I see in Illustrator is not what they're getting in the end. I guess I could just make everything thicker than I think it should be, and hope the thinning in the conversion to EPS/PDF balances out, but that's a very annoying, slow workaround. Does anyone have any advice?

 

Is there some preference in Illustrator I need to change? Maybe the lines are being "artificially" thickened on my Illustrator artboard, the way some people are seeing too-thick lines in Acrobat because of the "smooth line art" preference? I don't know what preference that would be, though. 

 

 

2 replies

Inspiring
July 1, 2020

Who marked this the "correct" answer? It didn't solve the problem.

PrepressPro1
Legend
July 2, 2020

I'm not seeing anything in this thread indicating a correct answer…

Did you or persons viewing this PDF try turning off Smooth Line Art in the Preferences? If it is printing out the same on one printer it may be a screen viewing issue in Acrobat. 

Inspiring
July 2, 2020

I got an alarming email yesterday morning saying I had marked it correct, which I didn't, so I went in and unchecked the "correct answer" mark. I don't know who was able to do it in my stead. I guess I should change my password.

Re: Smooth Line Art preference

The lines do look thicker when this is turned off, but the page prints out with the thinner lines on the client's end, so it doesn't fix the problem. The main issue for me is that Illustrator's preview and Acrobat/Microsoft Word's don't line up. Word does a better job of showing how the file prints than Illustrator does, even though it was created in Illustrator.

Ton Frederiks
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 26, 2020

How thin are those thin lines?

Inspiring
June 26, 2020

They're not all the same, because the different brushes I used have weights that change with pressure. Quite a few of them are .5 pts, though.

 

The difference in weights doesn't quite make sense--for example, the lines above the squirrel's eyes are the same tiny lineweight as the much thicker line of its lower arm. (Screenshot attached.)

 

Because of this, I thought there might be a problem with the way the brushes I'm using render strokes, so that's why I tried expanding the strokes, but that didn't fix it.

 

Ton Frederiks
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 26, 2020

I see, a .5 or .174 pt line is very thin indeed.

I see variable line widths, you are probably using a tablet with variable pen pressure, so the linewidth will even become smalller depending on pressure.

How do your drawings look if you open them in Photoshop at 72 or 144 ppi?

Maybe that will give you an indication how Word renders the file