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PMS colour logo with effects, help..

Forum|Forum|8 years ago
February 13, 2018
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Hi,

I wonder if someone can help with some pre press advice.

A designer has put together Some logos in illustrator that need be made up of spots. (I’ll add a visual later).

This logo is a circular shape of one spot, on top of that there are other Pantone’s with Gaussian blurs acting as an inner shadow and then at the top of the circle a highlight spot with Gaussian blur added.

My first question is, as soon as you add a Pantone’s reference to the blur you get a white halo? Should this be made with a feather instead?

The second question is how the spots interact with each other If you have say a feather spot on top of a solid spot. To give the effect of bevelled surface?

Do spots mix as we need to keep the chosen Pantone’s their true value? Or would you need to pick Pantone’s that could be overprinted, but will try to achieve the final Pantone colour.

Lister

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lister110Author

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Thanks for the reply, here is an example of the AI file with pantones as effects (overprint preview). I'm not sure how each Pantone will affect the other. I guess the Pantone need to overprint like your example. But then to achieve the final pantone we would need to overprint a lighter pantone which would need a lot of testing. (Bevel effect with pantones)

Download link (AI)

https://we.tl/ijalKWeEvB

thanks

Mike_Gondek10189183

Community Expert

Looks to me like the designer wishes to have the intentional PMS 7604 bevel edge on top and then on the bottom not sure as they are screening back back 7591. The bottom part may may relate exactly to what my first post was about., and maybe they want this.

I might want to look into talking with the client and printing 100% of 7604 under the entire beveled button. Would change the color even so slightly, but eliminate any problem with angles as 7604 would have not tints, and act like a paint printer does on a wall to reduce pinholing and give a richer result.

What print process is this going to.

or they could remove 7604 altogether and save cost of an ink station.

If your client is not familiar with these kind of decisions might be best to print as is. I though prefer to work with clients with solid knowledge of prints process as their expectation are realistic and they understand my recommendations.

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lister110Author

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Thanks for your reply, at the moment there are about 5 logos all using this method. All pantones have been chosen by the designer (screen matched to Pantone).

so I'm not too sure what all the colours are yet.

Where each Pantone interacts with another Pantone the blend modes have been set to overprint is that correct darker pantone on light Pantone and knockout for highlight (Underpinned).

as there are a variation of multiple Pantone colours for the logos, the final colour choices picked may differ because of the blends being used.

thanks again.

Mike_Gondek10189183

Community Expert

Please please post a visual next time, as I usually skip over posts that are too hard to follow/understand. Will take a guess as believe I know exactly what you are referring to, though no-one except yourself will now for sure.

The first item is s post orange with a spot blue gaussian blue on top. What happens with this situation is where you have lets stay 50% of the blue ink in the middle of the blue is on top of 50% of the orange. This creates a lighter gray ring.

In the second example I built this with one shape but 2 appearance radio gradient fills. for the one on top I moved the diamond shaped gradient slider to show more blue form 50% to 65%. I set this to multiply multiply. Illustrator does a fantastic job of showing this on screen close to as it should print. There is not magic number for this, so you will have to watch visually and then do a hard copy proof.

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