why is illustrator better than corel? [locked]

But the most amazing thing for me here was that I was able to express myself freely, even aggressively against their product, I appreciate marketing people who have taken the risk, I hope they are still here  ) thank you!

Probably this post has been bullied, mostly by me:)), but honestly at that time:))

After 3 years I think I'll have something back for Adobe:

now I'm working in a flexo prepress center, 70% with Illustrator, 30% with corel, maybe 60-40% but definitely the illustrator grows.

During my work I have to do trappings between colors, duplicate labels, multiplying objects and use distortion, verifying color separations, overprints. etc.

Extremely easy, separation preview with each color, including overprints, multiple fills and strokes with offset path (positive or negative), on the same object definitely is a game changer, even if corel now has overprint preview, live separation while editing is far away… Other than flexoprint, multiplying artboard on the same screen, isolation mode, pasting on screen or choosing in the same place, putting your editing tabs anywhere you want not where the programs is set keeps your individuality, because we are all unique in our subjective way.

Nothing is not achievable in one program or the other, but after I often used adobe interface, the feeling of familiarity remained with the illustrator even if my time with corel was maybe at least 10 years longer.

(Of course  ) despite my positive feelings I still endure the shortcuts problem, you can record an action and point for a key, but only on F keys… which is not so ergonomic… but adobe don’t want it in another way, definitely can be done,  some kind of steve jobs lame philosophy.

Jut thriving to find a reason, I’ll need another 3 years for this  )

More pro’s for adobe, but my spare hour before bedtime has passed:), cya!

Hi, Bonjour,

Actuellement je travaille dans une entreprise française de mode. Je suis Surface Designer (Graphiste textile).

Aujourd'hui, des commerciaux viennent démarcher mon entreprise, et présentent C-Design (by corel)

Mon inquiétude est que l'on remplace notre pack CC. Je pense réellement que adobe CC est plus performant, intuitif et sert d'avantage à l'expression artistique. Aujourd'hui, je jongles entre photoshop, illustrator et In-design afin de développer des prints et tissus imprimés. Je fais des photomontages complexes, du dessin avec photoshop et utilise beaucoup de brushes. Je fais aussi énormément de retouches colorimétriques.

Pensez-vous réellement que pour mon job Corel peut égaler adobe?

J'attends vos réponses avec impatiente!

Merci.

How you can find a specific pantone collor in Illustrator? you know she exist in die cut layer, obviously in swatches too, you can only select objects and convert them to cmyk but nothing to find a specific color în artwork, to actually see the object containing it...

Solution, just make a pdf and import it in corel, you will have find and replace for EVERYTHING not only for text.

I've became some kind of troll here, but let's be honest, coreldraw and illustrator are 2 separate things, one is great for production and working speed (ergonomic), and the other one for designers. But this title is funny, why is illustrator better than corel on an adobe forum:)))

There's a gain with same interface for all adobe products and you can easily adapt between them, also is nice to see that things are going well between illustrator, photoshop, after effects in some kind of native understanding without very many tutorials, and maybe was a good marketing strategy but from my point of view shortcuts, selection, reflecting, duplicates, effects and everything was base wrong, i need visuals with drag and drop not tabs to insert values, they finally seems to go in a better direction, maybe because macintosh added a second mouse button?:))) but the interface remained for only 1:))) hahaha, geeez, how stupid was that, "because users always asked witch button to press, second mouse button confuse them" ))) steve jobs ideology?:)))

You can't separate text from path? IoI

You must duplicate your path since the first one became useless when you put text on it? pfffff, amazing

You must write again your text directly on path since you don't have attach to path option?

I found secrets every day, and on and on...

I'm simply amazed that some basic things don't exist

Greetings all,

(I'm guessing inquestflash is long gone).

This question is a good one, in its own right, yet also a bad one for universal philosophical reasons. It's much like "which is better. Mac? Or PC?"

The question is bad because it asks for an object judgement for all subjective circumstances. That's irrational.

The reality of the PC Mac question is that the right tool, or the BEST tool is ALWAYS the one you most need to get the job done.

If you work in a Mac house, Mac is better. If you work in Canada, Corel is better.

I know the question is silly, and its compounded by the fact that so few people have extensive experience in both. So I found a few, years ago, and I asked the proper question, "of the two, which do you prefer using, and why?"

I got nearly identical answers, the most succinct was "Corel is almost exactly like Photoshop, but with less clicking". Corel is better.

But, taking this to another level, look up the history of the keyboard scheme called Dvorak. It's a keyboard layout so far superior to QWERTY that it's disgusting to contemplate that I'm using a QWERTY layout at this moment typing this post. IF you converted to DVORAK you would be guaranteed  AT LEAST a 50% improvement in typing speed (an massive improvement is less typing errors). This has been known for 100 years.

So why do we use QWERTY? because we already learned how. SO, in the short term, QWERTY is easier. So we refuse to make an improvement that, in the clerical world, would save BILLIONS of dollars in improved productivity.

Corel is better. But is it 50% better? No. And is it profoundly better? In a fundamental way? No.

Is it worth learning for no reason? Probably not.

Do you already know Photoshop? ANY version? Then stay with Photoshop. Learning the new one will be easier than switching programs.

VITAE

I've used Corel since version 3, (I've used Corel for 15 versions, 28 years). I love Corel.

I've used Adobe, almost exclusively Photoshop (not Illustrator), for six years. It was required by my Game Art & Design degree, (I turn 50 this year, got the new degree four years ago).

Two things bring me back to Corel every time.

First: I've mastered it. 28 years of experience goes a long way in terms of productivity. I can produce work 100x as fast in Corel as I can in Photoshop, for various reasons. I can utilize much more complex functionality in Corel than I can in Adobe.

Second: I like a few of the features better.

     I can set the CTRL-Z button to allow me to undo however many steps i want to. Instead of just 1. Almost all of the time I've ever wasted in Adobe was due to having to access the history tab in order to back up in my process. (the is Adobe's weakest link)

     The workspace in Corel is larger than your work. Like laying all your stuff out on a huge white table. Iterating design in that workspace is ridiculously simple and easy compared to anything done in Adobe.

     Photo edit features. I have two photo effects in Corel I love, and three in Photoshop. Photoshop's photocorrect for shadows and highlights is amazing. Corel's The Boss effect is like a magic spell. I can duplicate the effects in either package, and they're smoother in their own versions.

If I got a job in a Photshop workplace, I'd bring my laptop with me. If someone complained, I'd discuss it then. Some of what I needed to do I would do in Corel.

The best tool is the one you need in order to do the job.

I recommend both that Adobe and Coreldraw suites and encourage people to develop custom workflows. There are plenty of macros that help ease the transition between these rivals. You really can't beat Photoshop's versatility in the raster world, but Coreldraw is just unbeatable vector software. And Corel's other software like Powertrace and Connect make life quite a bit easier. Pair that with surprisingly powerful raster effects inside Draw, and it's a powerhouse all by itself in many cases. And being able to render images in vector with Draw makes beautiful, realistic vector art a real possibility to even those who are not artistic veterans.

But no, retouching photos in Photo-paint is clumsy and the layer and masking systems in Corel's suite isn't suitable for heavy raster work. Also, photo art or digital painting just isn't a thing for Corel outside Painter, which is quite expensive. Even then, it's more meant to emulate fine art. So Photoshop + Draw = win for me. Just my opinion and I'm sure those who use Illustrator exclusively will likely develop great results with different workflows. It just depends on what works best for you. None of it is particularly expensive to try, even after the 30 day trial that both makers offer. And there are LOTS of tutorials for all of these programs. So go figure it out on your own and learn something new.

As far as the previous guy losing time in productivity, that sounds user-specific. I could easily say the same about Illustrator or Indesign, which I almost never use any more. And the User Interface for Corel is probably hostile to someone because they are not used to it. It is quite intuitive, honestly. Just like any software, it takes time to learn the shortcuts, and how to best set up a workspace. Ironically, Draw has a workspace specifically tailored to people who are coming from Illustrator. All in all, I wouldn't say that Illustrator is better than Corel. But I wouldn't know what to do with the Adobe Suite either.

People who can use Corel Draw have done amazing things in it, so I think it is up to the user what he or she prefers...

I have both, sometimes I get an original in Corel Draw and it is just easier to open it in that program and export to Illustrator or a PDF.

Cons with Corel Draw.

It has an interface that I find user hostile, only Gimp is fare worse in my opinion. I don't manage to close the pattern with the nods cause the button that is supposed to do this is always gray. But this is what you are used to and what you have learnt. If I have to do anything in Corel Draw or Photo-Paint it takes me at least twice the time than if I had done it in Illustrator.
Your time/productivity, salary and education is a cost for your company to.

The compatibility between Photoshop, In Design, Acrobat and Premiere, etc. No one can beats that.

The only reason I can see why use Corel Draw is that I think that monopoly is bad for the industry when it comes to development new features and it leads to higher prices, I can't understand how the US back in the days complained over that Explorer was included in Windows. We have at least four other serious browsers alternative today (Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Opera) and it has nothing to do with that the court made Microsoft show a window where you must choose a webbrowser, the only thing I use IE to is go and download Chrome or Firefox.

One area there Adobe hasn't monopoly is the video editing market where in Sweden Avid is the leading software, but you can see that Adobe has made really strong improvements of every new installment of Premiere so in many ways it is damn close with Avid and if you use other Adobe products it is bundled with the CC-package. Which is an huge advantage.

Just see what happened with In Design, since Quark messed up with version 5 to mac and didn't made an OS X version and you could only have one document open at the same time in Rosetta-mode, in just a couple of months people switched to In Design cause they already had it almost for free since Adobe almost gave it away in the beginning to make people to switch. Now In Designs compatibility with earlier version is crap, when they released version CS5.5 and you couldn't even save for version CS5.0, we had some issues with this where I had to forbid others to install 5.5. since there for some reason we didn't get licenses for all users and I didn't want to spend the companies money for such a small update.

If you don't like the cloud solution where you have to pay every month Corel is the only serious option.

It is always good to have knowledge about several programs, the home and student version is really cheap and costs 89 usd if you would like to learn it on your own. You can always use that as an argument when you ask for a raise.

One big cons for me but probably not for you is that the software is only available in English, French, German and simplified chinese. I use Mac at work mostly but I need to run some bookkeeping programs that is only for PC so we have that to, and in my opinion my new Surface Pro 3 beats my old Macbook air in every way and I didn't felt to even get a new macbook air.

Another con for Corel. The Surface stylus pressure function doesn't work in Corel Draw or Photo-Paint.

There is no good font manager for PC in my opinion. Bought what I thought was a serious program Font Explorer but if you have a high resolution on your screen the program doesn't just look like crap. It doesn't work at all cause every button is blank. Yep there was 100 euro included taxes waisted...

I also tried Suitcase but it wanted to install some really old support system Windows files that I guess didn't worked well with my system cause I had to reinstall the whole computer since no Apps in Metro would access the internet.

Say you wan't to switch to mac, there is no mac version of Corel there.

they don't make corel draw for mac, that's all i need to prefer illustrator.

Corel Draw is a powerful and underrated application. It's been popular on the PC, maybe still is, I don't know. Obviously, many untrained in-house people have used it so it got a bad reputation for it's output. At the same time this proves that it has a pleasant learning curve.

If you know what you're doing, you can get great results with both programs.

I use both for compatibility reasons with clients and suppliers. Maybe that's your boss' concern as well. Just a few handy facts: any 'flat' eps-file from one application can be opened in the other. It's for keeping effects editable that they both have their proprietary files. Illustrator saves these as .ai files, Corel has .cdr files for that. Corel can to some extent read .ai files as well. Corel has way more input and output formats so it can also be a handy bridge to get things in Illustrator or other CS-programs, if needed. Illustrator is mostly used in the professional world on Macs, that's the main reason why Illustrator is 'better' than Corel Draw. For that reason I sometimes import Corel-drawings or logos in Illustrator just to save them as the latest version .ai ;-) The other way around, saving from lllustrator to Corel doesn't make much sense. Corel users can open almost anything anyway and they're fine with it. Bottom line: maybe you can use Corel as converting tool and keep doing your editing in Illustrator. Or does your boss want to ditch Illustrator alltogether? I wouldn't recommend that, Corel's file compatibility is of course always a bit behind with the latest Illustrator versions so you won't be able to open all files you get on your desk.