Arnopro typeface

[leaw12789190]

My question concerns the arno pro typeface. We would like to use this typeface in one of our publications. Not only would we like to use but also we would need to edit the font to have diacritical marks. So, how do we go about, firstly, do we need to purchase this font? Secondly can adobe provide us with the arnopro font with diacritics?

[Derek Cross]

This is a user-to-user InDesign support forum. You need to contact Adobe directly.

[Jongware]

It's indeed not an InDesign related question, but still:

leaw12789190  wrote

firstly, do we need to purchase this font?

Uh. "Yes"? (Unless I'm missing something? It's not really a free font.)

leaw12789190  wrote

..o we would need to edit the font to have diacritical marks.

Arno Pro already contains lots of diacritics. See the character map at https://www.fonts.com/font/adobe/arno/complete-family-pack

Editing a font is usually explicitly not allowed. Adobe is one of the few font providers that does allow it under certain circumstances, but every font comes with a EULA (End User License Agreement) and you should read that very carefully.

A possible workaround is to use Arno Pro as-is (you still have to buy it first) and using a tool such as my own IndyFont to create a font containing just the diacritics that are not in Arno itself. Depending on how you are using the font, you may need to insert each diacritic 'manually', or you may be able to utilize a GREP Style, which transparently would switch the font where needed.

[barbara_a]

Arno Pro might be part of Typekit, in which case if you have a subscription to creative cloud, it would be included in the price of your subscription.

[TᴀW]

Unfortunately, and fairly typically, Typekit makes only a small subsection of the complete Arno Pro family available for syncing, which is  the license you need if you will be producing printed matter.

For some reason, it seems to make available the entire family (of over 30 typefaces) available for web use, but who on earth needs optical sizes for web? Screen resolution is not really adequate to display the subtle differences involved, except perhaps between the extreme Display and Caption sizes!

So the answer is that if you need this for web, you're okay with what comes with Typekit as part of your Adobe subscription.

But if you need Arno for print, Typekit provides only the 4 basic weights -- regular, italic, bold, and bold-italic! Which is absurd: It clearly should be the other way round: For web, those 4 weights are probably adequate, but for print, you should have all 32!

Anyway, that's the situation!

Ariel

[leaw12789190]

Dear Ariel,

Thank you so much for your very helpful answer.

We wish to use Arnopro for print. We are going to print a book which contains much Romanized Sanskrit text. Arnopro gives us the aesthetic appearance which we need, however it does not contain some of the diacritical marks for Romanized Sanskrit which we require. So, a few further questions:

1) Would there be another font which looks very similar to Arnopro or any other font you would recommend for a scholarly book and which would contain all the diacritical marks that we need for Romanized Sanskrit? These would be the following characters:

1. existing glyphs/diacritics: ñ ā ī ś ū

2. What we need: ḍ ḥ ḷ ḹ ṁ ṅ ṇ ṛ ṣ ṝ ṭ (Including capitals of course)

2) Alternatively, if we were to purchase a full license to use all 32 weights of Arnopro, would it be possible for Adobe to modify the font to add our requirements (diacritical marks)? Or, would it be possible for us to legally modify the font ourselves for print?

[BobLevine]

Adobe is certainly NOT going to do this for you. Your best alternative is pick another font that has all of the glyphs you need.

[TᴀW · Accepted solution]

As Bob says, for a single purchase I doubt Adobe is going to do this for you.

Check out IndyFont, though: Indiscripts :: IndyFont | Build OpenType Fonts from within InDesign!

With IndyFont, you can create a new font just for the glyphs you need, constructing them yourselves.

So you can stick with Arno, and hvae another font that provides the necessary accented glyphs.

There may be a problem with kerning if you do it this way, though. Since these will be 2 different fonts, any kerning pairs built into Arno won't apply with your custom-made glyphs.

[Barb Binder]

It is available on Typekit—with my subscription some variations are free and others require a purchase. Arno Pro (free for me) seems to have plenty of diacritics.

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