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can't adjust spacing between words

New Here ,
Feb 05, 2022 Feb 05, 2022

I have a text box where the space between words is too small.  I don't know how to change it. 

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Interestingly, I have another text box where it looks fine, but I can't find what setting controls this. 

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I saved these 2 boxes with separate paragraph styles, but toggling the first box to have the other box's style doesn't change anything. 

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Community Expert , Feb 06, 2022 Feb 06, 2022

You can also adjust word spacing with a key command. With the text selected—Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (Windows) or Command+Option+Delete (Mac) decreases the word spacing, and Ctrl+Alt+\ (Windows) or Command+Option+\ (Mac) to increase. The key commands adjust the kerning values of the word spaces and don’t affect the Justification settings.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

I use it for adjusting paragraph lengths on the fly where I need to have one more or one less line to get a good break at the bottom of a page or column. Highlighting a fairly long paragraph and hitting the shortcuts one or two times can usually make it happen without a visible abberation.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

As a shortcut to apply manual kerning to word spacing it is better than nothing. But it is not formatting I can apply, adjust, or make uniform using a style.

 

This puts it a little better than I did.

 

This feature does not seem to be "kerning adjustment," exactly, since it only applies to spaces. Experimenting shows that the actual function (in the Control bar) applies only to spaces, with inter-character kerning limited to three options.

 

I feel like ID is making an arbitrary distinction here between kerning and tracking, and while I find the "universal" feature of tracking quite useful, this whole discussion and investigation confirms why I have always have a bit of a queasy vibe about 'kerning' in this specific implementation. It's neither standard, nor easily managed, nor adquately noticeable as are most text spacing methods, and as Scott notes, not well manageable with styles.

 

Noted for the narrow usefulness of squeezing spaces sometimes, but I think this will remain a bottom-drawer tool for me. As with Spam™, I just don't like it. 🙂

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

I like that it's only kerning word spaces. It allows you at least attempt to tweak the spacing on justified text if InDesign's paragraph composer chooses spacing that's not to your liking in some paragraph using your preferred spacing specs.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

Can't argue; maybe now that I have a precise understanding of the feature, I might use it occasionally.

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

Kerning is applied to the insertion point after a character, and the distinction between Kerning and Tracking would be if you apply Tracking to an insertion point nothing happens:

 

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Kerning the Fo pair:

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The Kerning amount applied to the character pair’s insertion point will show when the first character in the pair is selected, and a character can also include a tracking amount.

 

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I could have a combination of some tracking plus extra word spacing via Kerning:

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

Right, I know all that. But this "space squishing" isn't quite either one, which is why my eyebrow is doing its Leonard Nimoy impression about it.

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

I think it is only Kerning:

 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 17, 2023 Jan 17, 2023

This is a different question but y'all are so knowledgeable and responsive I thought I'd ask you before anyone else. 

In Adobe Acrobat, is there any way to search for paired parentheses rather than text?  I'm editing a document and find that the writer uses full names vs abbreviations about equally.  I need to find the first time that she abbreviates each name.  Grateful for any help you can offer!

-Susan in Minneapolis

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People's Champ ,
Jan 17, 2023 Jan 17, 2023

You can search for any characters in Acrobat.

Look for the Magnifying Glass with 3 dots in the upper left of the top tool bar.

Acrobat Search Field.Acrobat Search Field.

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 18, 2023 Jan 18, 2023

I'm concerned that you've mentioned editing in Acrobat twice now. PDF is a final format, not meant for extensive edting. Text does not reflow smoothly when editing in Acrobat.

 

If you are editing a document for final output the place to do it is in the original, either the manuscript befor placing into the layout file, or in your InDesign layout where you have complete control, then create a new PDF from the .indd file you've edited or made from the edited manuscript.

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Mentor ,
Jan 18, 2023 Jan 18, 2023
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>> In Adobe Acrobat, is there any way to search for paired parentheses rather than text? 

Why not buy for writer InCopy? Is 5-10$ in month is not so cheap for you? Better to have writer directly with you working with .indd rather than cursed workflow through PDF. 

 

And even for PDF InDesign have some interesting thing: https://helpx.adobe.com/in/indesign/using/import-pdf-comments.html#:~:text=PDF%20for%20review.-,Impo....

 

Therefore - I would prefer InCopy instead to import comments. 

Remember, never say you can't do something in InDesign, it's always just a question of finding the right workaround to get the job done. © David Blatner
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