Character Style changes leading of Paragraph style

[theresad47791615]

Hi All,  I am having trouble with Character Styles. I assign a Paragraph Style with say 10pt leading. I fit the frame to my content. Then, if I assign a Character style, say a bolder version of the same font, same size, indicating no specific leading in the Character Style format, it shifts the line down approximately p6, thereby giving me overset text...

Anyone have a fix for this, aside from not fitting frame to content.

Thanks for the input/suggestions.

Theresa

[Mike Witherell]

Are there any + sign overrides on the text? Is the paragraph style calling for an explicit value of leading? Not auto-leading? Is the character style really empty of the leading value? Is the last invisible hard return character (the pilcrow) being selected when you apply a paragraph style?

[theresad47791615]

+ sign only on Paragraph Style after I apply Character Style.

Yes, paragraph leading is set explicitly.

Yes, Character Style empty of leading. (Don't want it set so that I can use the style in multiple Paragraph Styles)

Yes, pilcrow selected when setting Paragraph Style.

[theresad47791615]

OK...actually realized it's a different font; not just a different weight. I am using Avenir for the Paragraph and Avenir Next Condensed for the Character. I never had this problem in Quark, so it's freaking me out in InDesign!

[Randy Hagan]

My bet is that when you specify no leading, you're actually getting [Auto] leading, or 120% of the character size.

You have to specify your leading in the character style as the same in your paragraph style if you want to avoid rude surprises.

Hope this helps,

Randy

[theresad47791615]

Nope, I specified Character leading as the same and it still happened.

[SJRiegel]

In your preferences, do you have Apply Leading to Entire Paragraphs checked?

[theresad47791615]

yes, I do

[Mike Witherell]

I would try creating a new character style that is fresh and deleting the old character style and replacing it with the new character style. While rare, styles can sometimes seem buggy.

If the document is beginning to corruct, OTOH, export to IDML and re-open that resulting file. Maybe the odd behavior will go away.

[theresad47791615]

nope. just tried

[pixxxelschubser]

Do you have a simple example file (indd or idml) with only one textframe with example contents and both styles (paragraph and character style) for us?

You can upload the file on a hoster of your choice (dropbox or whatever) an link here.

[theresad47791615]

I don't have dropbox. I use wetransfer, but don't know how to do that without entering an email...

[theresad47791615]

would be handy if Adobe let us upload indd right here!!

[pixxxelschubser]

Try xup.in

no registration required (files will be removed after some days 150 days without download or if you delete them by yourself)

[Randy Hagan]

It may be a difference with how each font fills the type slug. I'd suggest:

• Try changing the Character Style back to Avenir with the Preview check box on and see if it fills the type slug better. If it does, then change it back to Avenir Next Condensed and see if the problem reoccurs. Or not.

If it does reoccur, you may have to fiddle with the baseline shift to get the font to line up right and apply that to your Character Style in the Advanced Character Settings section. If just switching back and forth fixes the problem, chalk it up to a quirk of the system and press on.

Good luck,

Randy