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Character Style: leading won't go below 12pt (no baseline grid, no justification)

New Here ,
Dec 22, 2024 Dec 22, 2024

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Hi everyone 

 

I've been trying desperately to fix this issue which has been driving me nuts forever. All solutions I have found were already disabled in the first place. 

When I try to decrease the leading in this Character Style, at some point (around 12pt) the lines stop moving closer within themselves and only the whole box moves upwards.

I am not using (Auto) leading on any text in this document, the Character style is not based on any other style, I've set the Paragraph Style to [No Paragraph Style] and Baseline Grid is disabled, Vertical Justification is set to top. I've also tried to set Auto Leading in the Paragraph Justifciation menu to other values, no change.

I'd be eternally grateful for any help here! Thanks a lot. Cheers

T.

 

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Dec 22, 2024 Dec 22, 2024

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Can you provide an example document?

Show invisible characters, eventually with different background colors.

I once tracked down similar troubles to an incompatible style and font in the bullets, but that would be a different line than your highlight.

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Dec 22, 2024 Dec 22, 2024

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Thanks for your answer! Somehow I cant really replicate the issue with a new document. Also I can't share the fonts I'm using – maybe you can replicate the issue with a replaced font too.

 

Cheers!

T.

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Dec 22, 2024 Dec 22, 2024

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When I select the insertion point at the beginning of the [Macadam … line, it uses "Acts" rather than "Acts Untertitel". Hmm, not the problem, spill over from the preceding line break. But if you apply "Acts Untertitel" to the end of paragraph character, behind Zürich], you should be almost done. I'd also reconsider why you need a baseline shift in that cstyle.

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Dec 23, 2024 Dec 23, 2024

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Thank you so much! When I selected my text all the way from the next list dot upwards and applied the cstyle, it finally worked. The baseline shift was just a temporary fix for the problem. 

 

Wishing you lovely festivities & thanks again! :christmas_tree:

 

Cheers, T.

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Dec 22, 2024 Dec 22, 2024

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If you have applied a character style with a smaller leading as the leading of the paragraph style it will only use this setting over the whole ine. Even if a single character or space in that line is not included, the bigger leading of the paragraph style is used.

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Dec 22, 2024 Dec 22, 2024

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Thanks for your answer! That's why I made sure to be using [No Paragraph Style]
Do you think the issue could still be related to that?

 

Cheers

T.

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Dec 22, 2024 Dec 22, 2024

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Never use no paragraph style. There must be an underlayibg paragraph style.

 

Did you check Preferences > Type > Apply leading to the entire paragraphs? Deselect it.  It is a document setting, not program wide.

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Dec 23, 2024 Dec 23, 2024

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Thanks, but I've had that option deselected. Dirk got it right, thanks anyways for your help!

Wishing you lovely festivities.

Cheers, T.

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Dec 23, 2024 Dec 23, 2024

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The essential problem is that you are confusing the use of a character style (appropriately used for 1 or more characters within a paragraph style) with the overall paragraph style. The essence of the use of InDesign is to control text by means of paragraph styles. Here and there, like for an italicized word, you would make a character style. 99% of the time you want a paragraph style to define things like font, point size, leading, paragraph alignment, etc...

Mike Witherell

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