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Creating Two Different Text Flows in Master Page for Translation Layout

New Here ,
Nov 09, 2024 Nov 09, 2024

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Hello!

 

Apologies if this has been solved, I couldn't find it. 

I have a 6*9 document, with facing pages. I want to have two columns (easy right?) but I need to have two different text flows, since it's supposed to have one language on the left, and the translation on the right. The column in the right should have its own text, and I want to be able to manipulate freely the column on the left, with different text. 

I thought I would create two text frames in Master Pages, and link the frames from the even page, to those on the odd page.
This will work, but only in that direction. I find no way to make the text flow from the odd page, back to the next even page automatically. Please help! Basically autoflow, of two different text frames.

 

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Nov 10, 2024 Nov 10, 2024

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Yeh it can be done - but before I commit to an answer can you show a simple example of what you're trying to achieve.

 

It should work - but once I see what you're trying to actually do I can either say it will or not work - or maybe there's a clever way to do it that we haven't thought of yet 😛 

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Nov 10, 2024 Nov 10, 2024

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Hi @Michelle26541100t72g:

 

This is a somewhat common request in FrameMaker (Adobe's other page layout application) and we do it with two text flows: A and B. We set up each flow on the master/parent pages and then can run the content automatically for each language. 

 

InDesign has a limitation of one primary frame per document—if we could have two, it would be easy, and we would set it up the same way. Instead, I have a solution that will work. Take a look and if this is what you need, I'll be happy to share the details. I'm using colors instead of languages so that you can see this at work in the Pages panel.

 

~Barb

 

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Nov 29, 2024 Nov 29, 2024

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Thank you Barb! that seems like what I need. Can you share the details? Thanks again!

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Dec 02, 2024 Dec 02, 2024

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Of course! I worked on a variation of this with someone else today, and was able to simplify the layout. This is slightly different from my original answer.

 

Start by studying my A-Parent. I have a 2-column layout and have drawn four text frames. The color is to help you differentiate between the threads and won't be needed in your layout, of course. Yellow frames will hold one language, magenta frames will hold the second language.

 

Still on the A-Parent, I threaded column 1 to column 3, and column 2 to column 4, and used View > Extras > Show Text Threads so that you can see the threading. I am not using any primary frames. 

 

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Return to body page  1 and use File > Place to load the first story. Shift+click over the first yellow frame to auto-flow the story. It will fill every yellow frame in succession, until InDesign runs out of text. Return to body page  1 and use File > Place to load the second story. Shift+click over the first magenta frame to auto-flow the story. It will fill every magenta frame in succession, until InDesign runs out of text. 

 

~Barb

 

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Nov 11, 2024 Nov 11, 2024

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Create 2 different master, onle with the margins for the left column, the other with the margin for the right column.

Apply the first master, let the first language flow in. Now apply the other master WITTHOUT layout adjustment and let the  other language flow in.

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Nov 29, 2024 Nov 29, 2024

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Thank you... I guess I don't know how to apply another master without layout adjustment.

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