CS5 Running very sticky

[Guest]

Hello,

I've installed InDesign CS5 and it's running terribly when I have graphics placed, especially at high resolution display.  It's choppy, sticky - to much to even work with.  I've thrown out the SavedData and InDesign Defaults, but it doesn't help.  Has anyone else experienced this problem, or have any ideas what I can do.  CS4 runs fine.

Thanks,

Adam

[Peter Spier]

Theun,

I can't speculate on Wayne's setup, but I'm over here with my pitiful one monitor, and Adam's file is a disaster for me, too.  I can make my own files with his link that work fine in CS4 and not in CS5, too.

[Jongware]

So, it's pretty definitively a CS5-only issue? Perhaps I'm gonna await 7.0.1

It seems everyone else already has suggested everything I could offer ...

Perhaps the Adobe engineers optimized screen redraws for quite large images -- but not large enough, so it backfires double with these ...

[Rgtschope]

I am seeing the exact same problem under Windows 7 64-bit... Tried only with an CS4 170 pages document with lots of graphics and vector files. It is impossible to work with it... Installed Master Collection Trial, my Video Card is a ATI HD 4870 with 512MB, running with a Core i7 920 processor with 6GB of RAM with latest drivers. CS4 runs fine though!

See ya!

[Rgtschope]

Tried oppening the file that was showing problems in Windows in InDesign CS5 for Mac... Same stickiness... Perhaps it is some feature in CS4 that isn't properly supported in CS5... Don't know... When I get home I'll try to remake the main file (Master Pages, Styles, etc...) to see what happens....

[Digmar]

Just finished a 1/4 page magazine ad with high res display on. Went to close the ad and CRASH. Here is a link to the crash report if anyone can make sense of it. I did send the crash log to Adobe...

InDesign Quite Unexpectedly

http://www.digitalmarketing1.com/IDCS5-Crash.rtf

[Peter Spier]

cspann wrote:

Just finished a 1/4 page magazine ad with high res display on. Went to close the ad and CRASH. Here is a link to the crash report if anyone can make sense of it. I did send the crash log to Adobe...

InDesign Quite Unexpectedly

http://www.digitalmarketing1.com/IDCS5-Crash.rtf

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)

Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000

Bad font, I think.

[Digmar]

Ran FontDoctor. It found 33 duplicate fonts. All in the:  Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts folders.

[Peter Spier]

cspann wrote:

Ran FontDoctor. It found 33 duplicate fonts. All in the:  Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts folders.

Might be, but I think it's more likely a corrupt or badly made font. First suspects are freeware and cheapo fonts.

[Ben_Frey]

Is there a way to disable the new "always on" content preview when dragging things around or resizing boxes. I just noticed my first trace of what you guys have been talking about, and it happened when I was trying to fine-tune the cropping of a PDF inside a box. The PDF is all text, converted to outlines.

Nothing fancy at all. I think the file is 50-60 kb. single color.

It was just sort of "jerky" and I am quite sure it is because of the "always preview" of CS5 where content is concerned.

I actually didn't mind the "click and hover to preview" functionality of earlier versions, because I don't always want to see that over my design if I'm lining something up, and in this specific case, the new functionality actually hindered my ability to align my objects properly. I had to resort to the keyboard to fine-tune the placement, something I had almost stopped doing since smart-guides were introduced in CS4.

[Jongware]

From the Online Help:

"Live Screen Drawing

In InDesign CS5, you see the content draw as you drag it. In previous InDesign versions, you pause before dragging to see the content draw. You can change the Live Screen Drawing setting in Interface preferences to use the previous behavior. See Change Interface preferences."

(c'ted from over there)

Live Screen Drawing

Select an option to determine whether the image redraws as you drag an object. If Immediate is selected, the image redraws while you drag. If Never is selected, dragging an image moves only the frame, and then image is moved when you release the mouse button. If Delayed is selected, the image redraws only if you pause before dragging. Delayed offers the same behavior as in InDesign CS4."

[BobLevine]

Check your Interface preferences. Change Live Screen Drawing to delayed.

Bob

[Peter Spier]

cspann wrote:

Just finished a 1/4 page magazine ad with high res display on. Went to close the ad and CRASH. Here is a link to the crash report if anyone can make sense of it. I did send the crash log to Adobe...

InDesign Quite Unexpectedly

http://www.digitalmarketing1.com/IDCS5-Crash.rtf

You might want to take a look at this, too: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2791446#2791446

[roliver1969]

I'm having similar issues on Windows 7 64-bit with a quad-core i5, 6 GB RAM and an ATI Radeon HD 4350 card. Very sluggish no matter what I do. The only improvement I've been able to make is to turn off Smart Guides.

My older Pentium 4 system running CS2 on Windows Vista was much faster than CS5 on a brand-new multicore system.

[Guest]

I would add 1 point to speeding up InDesign CS5.

1. Live Screen Drawing set to delayed.

2. Switch off smart guides when not needed.

3. Switch off instant preflight on bottom bar.

[roliver1969]

I've tried turning off preflighting, turning off page thumbnails, turning off Smart Guides, turning off Live Screen Redraw, adjusting view settings, and just about every other performance tip I can find and none of it really makes that much difference. InDesign CS5 is still amazingly slow.

[empired]

Thank you so much I will do all of those. Turning off the Live Screen

redraw was a huge difference.

[ThePhoenix34]

Me too.  Live Screen Drawing makes no difference for me either.

Immediate actually works better for me.

[Guest]

1. Are you able to disable 2 cores of your processor and check if it helps?

http://www.mactricksandtips.com/2008/05/disabling-cpu-cores-on-a-mac.html

2. Are you able to limit your memory to 4 GB and check if it helps?

3. If you go to "About this MAC" what is the status of "64-bit core and extensions"? YES or NO?

Simply, as mentioned in other thread, I have mac mini Core 2 DUO 2.53 GHz,  4GB RAM and it works with CS5 as the hell. I try to find out why stronger 4/8-core machines experience the problems.

It seems to me that the reason lays more on the connection of ID CS5 and Snow Leopard than CS5 itself only.

[BobLevine]

For those that have reported this Adobe...Have you also reported it to Apple?

And before anyone jumps down throat, I'm not pointing fingers, but there's no clear cut reason for this and it could be the O/S, the application or both.

Bob

[ThePhoenix34]

Thanks Phorna ...   You're awesome to answer my question and try to help me.  I really appreciate it.

The suggestions you offered may be too advanced for me.  I did check my About This Mac ...   under Software > Extensions ...   64-Bit (Intel) says Yes.

[Peter Spier]

I have filed an official bug on this, along with a link to this thread and a sample file. Hopefully it will catch the attention of the proper engineering types.

[Ads-R-Us]

Just curious if you are booted with 64bit Kernels and Extensions in Mac OS X?

Although I believe it probably has something to do with the new way CS5 handles the viewing of the image when you drag it.

[Digmar]

No, I'm not booted into 64 bit and extensions.

[Digmar]

Hey, changing Live Screen Drawing to delayed fixed my sticky image/text problem completely! My entire ID works much better. No more sticky windows either.

Live Screen Drawing to delayed

1. Choose Edit > Preferences > Interface (Windows) or InDesign > Preferences > Interface (Mac OS).

2. Choose Live Screen Drawing and set to Delayed, and click OK.

[Jongware]

Perhaps Adobe designed and tested CS5 on a prototype of a next generation iMac: 10GHz Intel Quintiple Core, 10 gigs of memory, 1 gig on the video card ...