Font weight mapping?

[PAWU]

This is the problem:

I have a fornt (Univers) with those fancy "55 Roman" etc weights. And I have fonts with "Roman" weights. I would like now for both fonts attribute ONE character style like BOLD, mapping in the same time "Bold" and "65 Bold". the use is obvious. I have both fonts in my document and I want to have only one character style for BOLD, CONDENSED, ITALIC etc.

Is that possible?

[vladan saveljic]

There are several ways to do that.

- Type > Find font

- Select font that you want replace (for example Univers Roman") and then in "Replace With" choose "Univers LT Std" in Font Style choose "55 Roman".

- Tick "Redefine Style When Changing All"

- click "Change All"

[PAWU]

Thanks for your time to answer. I appreciate that. But that does not solve the problem. I have different fonts in one document and I need those different fonts in one document. I only want that BOLD is BOLD, whether it is called "65 bold" or "bold" or whatever the font designer called it. The same is true with "italic" and "oblique".

I do not have a problem redefining a style, when I change the font for a document...

[vinny38]

I hate to say it, but I'm afraid there is no possibility to have a single character style "Bold" in your case.

You'll have to create different character styles. Sorry about that...

[PAWU]

I hate to read your answer... but thanks.

[vladan saveljic]

well, I did not understand good your question.
but now, can we know why do you need this?

[vinny38]

If it is of any help, you can use Find/Replace to look for, let's say "Body text" paragraph style (which has bold style called "Bold") AND your funny character style called, let's say "LT 75 Bold", then replace all by "Bold" character style.

The cool thing is that you can save your queries by clicking the save icon so you can retrieve them easily.

[PAWU]

I don't want to replace the font weight...I want to be able to say that bold (or may be I call it GRAS) is a certain weight.

So GRAS=65 Bold or Bold. Then I define a character style GRAS, with the Font Style GRAS. Depending on the font, Indesign chooses "65 Bold" or "Bold" or what ever I have defined...

When doing documents with multiple fonts in, the need to define 2 styles for the same aim is very frustrating. In general I find the naming convention of 65 Bold, 55 Roman etc. very disturbing in computer type setting. The information is useful for me to appreciate the boldness of any character compared to a different character weight. But here also there is no standard, so the font foundry could it simply call bold...

[fenjas29325284]

I hope I understood your problem correctly.

You can create a new character style with the only property "Bold". (No text/textframe selected!)

IF the font family's meta-informations are properly set by the font designer,

THEN select the character(s) > click the "Bold" character style > InDesign applies the matching bold font face, if available.

If not available you get an error message and the background is dyed pink.

All this is independent of the displayed font name. In my example the "regular" font face Univers55 is called "Univers Medium"  and it is changed to Univers65 = "Univers Bold".

Fenja

[PAWU]

Correct. My only (theoretical) option so far is to patch the font meta data.

[Steve Werner]

Have you looked at the license for your font? It's quite possible that that's not permitted.

[PAWU]

No, I haven't! Sometimes, the license does disallow the user to breath... I know from the license that I can install the font on 5 computers. So I've read the conditions at least that far. But as I didn't intend patching, I do not remember a clause forbidding this. But yes, it may be the case.

I would prefer a conversion table...

[@mj]

1. Set up a Style sheet with the correct parameters
2. Under Find Format, choose Bold or 65 Bold from Basic Character Formats.
3. For Change Format, Choose your style you created in step 1 from Style Options.

Based on your screenshots, it will need to be a Character Style.

HTH