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Footnotes that need to continue to a second page

Contributor ,
Mar 14, 2018 Mar 14, 2018

I don't like splitting footnotes across pages, but sometimes in scholarly books there is no way around it. In this case, the publisher wants to know if there is a way to automatically insert the word "Continued" at the break between the pages. It would end up looking something like this on the first page:

1. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur oh for goodness sakes why do you want this to continue on another (continued)

And then on the second page, it would just be

page. It makes things so complicated. Etc. etc. . .

Can this be scripted?

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People's Champ ,
Mar 14, 2018 Mar 14, 2018

Yes, it can be scripted (only just)... Although if you're using the paragraph composer for the footnotes, it can be a little difficult to make sure that the word "continued" stays on the correct page. In fact, in any case it's a little difficult because some extra words will need to be moved on to the next page to make room for 'continued.'

Anyway, it should be possible. Get in touch if you want a quote.

Ariel

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Contributor ,
Mar 14, 2018 Mar 14, 2018

Thank you, I'll be in touch. Need to speak with the publisher first!

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Guide ,
Mar 14, 2018 Mar 14, 2018

Hi,

Scriptable!… Something like this:

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Michel, from FRIdNGE

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Contributor ,
Mar 14, 2018 Mar 14, 2018

Thank you, I'll be in touch. Need to speak with the publisher first!

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Enthusiast ,
Mar 15, 2018 Mar 15, 2018

Hi

We have type of problem with a book, it is the follow-up of the modification which poses the more problem because it is not automatic (and the setting up) with each modification it is necessary to test the notes and to make the follow-up.


We use a "Multi-find / Change" on each note cut (individual), editing to save time.


If there is another approach that interests me.

Philippe

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Nous avons se type de problème avec un livre, c'est le suivis des modification qui pose le plus de problème car c'est pas automatique (et la mise en place) à chaque modification il faut tester les notes et faire le suivit.


Nous utilisons un "Multi-find/Change" sur chaque note coupé (individuelle), au montage pour gagner  du temps.

Si il y a une autre approche cela m’intéresse.

Philippe

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People's Champ ,
Mar 15, 2018 Mar 15, 2018

Hi Philippe,

I don't understand what you're asking. Maybe some screenshots? (Also, perhaps better to start a new thread unless this is directly connected to the OP).

Thanks,

Ariel

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Enthusiast ,
Mar 15, 2018 Mar 15, 2018

Hi TaW,

Voici une illustration:

Capture d’écran 2018-03-15 à 13.18.01.png

I mean it's very complicated to automate that with full control over the layout with over 200 footnotes and to do it when you make corrections in the proof (moving text and footnotes)

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Je veux dire qu'il est très compliqué d'automatisé cela avec un contrôle total sur la mise en page avec plus de 200 notes de bas de pages et de faire le suis quand on apporte des correction dans l'épreuve (déplacement de textes et de notes de bas de pages)

Merci

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People's Champ ,
Mar 15, 2018 Mar 15, 2018

We're talking about footnotes again, right? A continued arrow wherever the footnote breaks across two pages? If so, very similar to the OP's question. And the answer is the same: It could be scripted (in several ways - either the arrow would actually be part of the text, or it would simply sit there as a page element). The script would need to be rerun whenever it is necessary to ensure that the arrows are in the right place.

So, yes, this could be fully automated. Get in touch if you'd like a quote.

Ariel

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Community Expert ,
Mar 15, 2018 Mar 15, 2018

Hi Ariel,
I would use the margins left and right from the spine for adding marks like arrows.
That's a design decission.

A decission that will allow for not interfering at all with the actual text of the footnote and overall pagination of the document or a book of documents.

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Uwe

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Enthusiast ,
Mar 15, 2018 Mar 15, 2018

Yes, the problem is the same.

// Oui, Le problème est le même.

A script ... yes of course ... but not automatically on a book with more than 200 footnotes, you would not control the moving of lines, you would be forced to double check all the layout. We used a small sequence with "Multi-Finf / Change".

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Un script ... oui bien sur ... mais pas en automatiquement sur un livre avec plus de 200 notes de bas de pages, vous ne contrôleriez pas les déplacement de lignes, vous seriez obligé de revérifie tous la mise en page. Nous avons utilisé une petite séquence avec "Multi-Finf/Change".

Regards,

Philippe

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Community Expert ,
Mar 16, 2018 Mar 16, 2018
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Hi Philippe,

therefore I would recommend doing a little triangle in the inner margins.
That would not disturb any footnotes' text.

FootnoteContinued.png

Regards,
Uwe

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