Gap between pages

[Dynamic Office]

Hello,

Could someone explain how this happened?

then, if you could also explain how to fix it, please

Many thanks!

[BobLevine]

Looks like a litte bit of file corruption. Try exporting to IDML and then opening that to get rid of it.

[Dynamic Office]

This completely crashes InDesign when i attempt to open it, all other Window functions work fine though

[BobLevine]

Try exporting it again. If you still can't open it, put it all in a dropbox folder and give us a link. One of us will take a look.

[Dynamic Office]

I will say this bob, this almost definitely has something to do with this post I had made some weeks back:

Re: Hoping for a miracle. File recovery

I had bit the bullet and added what was missing from this post, so I'm 100% happy with the content, it's just this random gap that has appeared now!

Take a look;

https://we.tl/I2NCEJvoNR

Thanks

[BobLevine]

You’ve got some serious corruption going on here. I managed to export it to IDML and open it but it’s still there. I even moved the spreads involved and the corrupt pasteboard went along for the ride.

If I were you, I’d move pages 30-35 to a new document, create three new spreads and copy / paste the content back.

[rob day]

There's a page item somewhere on the pasteboard that's forcing the gap. Running this AppleScript, which delete's pasteboard items seemed to be a fix. If you are on Windows I can post the clean doc.

tell application "Adobe InDesign CC 2018"
    set i to all page items of active document
    repeat with x in i
        try
            if parent page of x is nothing then
                delete x
            end if
        end try
    end repeat
end tell

[Laubender]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/rob+day  wrote

There's a page item somewhere on the pasteboard that's forcing the gap. Running this AppleScript, which delete's pasteboard items seemed to be a fix. If you are on Windows I can post the clean doc. …

Hi together,

there is a script in ExtendScript code for Windows and Mac versions of InDesign that will clean the pasteboard. It's by Marc Autret. See here:

Indiscripts :: Clean up your Pasteboard! [UPDATE]

Regards,
Uwe

[Dynamic Office]

Would you please send me it back? only as the pasteboard script that was linked didn't fix the issue for me.

appreciate the effort in helping!

EDIT: I've actually Copy and pasted it between documents and seems to have sorted it so no need to resend!

Strangely when I'd paste it back all the missing text (From my other thread) returned!!

Weird file, If it's okay with you guys I'm going to go through and sort this .eps problem then re-upload the file - If you guys wouldn't mind assessing again and giving me some more pointers?

Thanks

EDIT EDIT:

Would it not work just as well if I just converted the text the .eps into 'Outline'? that way it's no longer text but a vector.

Let me know the best course of action, please

[Laubender]

Hi Charles,

indeed there was an item, a graphic line with 0 Pt line width, on the pasteboard. Or should I dare to say: Outside of the pasteboard?

If I Copy/Paste in Place all objects of that spread to a new one in the same document and do Select All I can see, that there is something selected that may only touch the pasteboard with one path point:

If I remove all obejcts on the two pages of that spread and changing the pasteboard size to e.g. 2000 mm between spreads I can select the culprit:

Here a little ExtendScript (JavaScript) snippet that should work to remove the stray item together with all other items on the pasteboard.

Just make the spread you want to remove items on the pasteboard your active one and run the script:

var spread = app.documents[0].layoutWindows[0].activeSpread;
var allItemsOnSpread = spread.pageItems.everyItem().getElements();
for( var n=0; n<allItemsOnSpread.length;n++)
{ if( allItemsOnSpread.parentPage == null ){ allItemsOnSpread.remove() } };

I did that on your document and the pasteboard size shrank. The script will take about 10 to 20 sec to check all items on the spread:

Best,
Uwe

[rob day]

Also, I would consider getting rid of the .eps formatted files and converting them to either .ai or .pdf.

It may or may not relate to your corruption problems, but using .eps is a questionable practice especially with a document that is this complex.

[rob day]

For example this eps related problem can't be good—Find Font lists 2,561 fonts found in the eps graphics. That won't happen with a .pdf or .ai file.

[Laubender]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/rob+day  wrote

For example this eps related problem can't be good—Find Font lists 2,561 fonts found in the eps graphics. That won't happen with a .pdf or .ai file.

Could happen with PDF and Ai files as well, if one is not including fonts with the saved PDF. Should not happen with EPS as well. I assume that most of the missing fonts out of the 2543 missing ones are missing in the placed EPS files.That could lead to a disaster. It might be always the same font that is missing and our OP could have installed the missing ones, but that workflow could break, if the job is handed over to a different machine. ( Just some words of warning. )

Regards,
Uwe

[hammer0909]

You could also try going to Preferences > Guides and Pasteboard and setting your vertical margin to a different value. I think Bob’s right, something is screwed up but this might fix it as well.

[happie_97]

Charles,

Did any of these suggestions solve your issue?

Please update the forums to let us know.

[Dynamic Office]

Thank you all for your comments,

I will convert all of those EPS to a flat image, I just assumed since Indesign could handle the import it wouldn't be a problem but upon reflection and your comments its probably a recipe for disaster. Probably doesn't help the file size either.

I'm on windows, and having used the script provided for removing pasteboard item it hasn't resolved it unfortunately, Going to take Bobs advice and move the pages back and forth...

Many many thanks guys - Will update when i have something.

[rob day]

will convert all of those EPS to a flat image

You don’t want to covert them to an image format, then you’ll likely have a resolution problem.

Also, no need to convert to outlines, just embed the fonts and while you are going to the trouble of resaving use .AI or .PDF and not postscript