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hyphenation in Indesign

Explorer ,
Oct 30, 2023 Oct 30, 2023

Hello everyone I need help with hyphenation in Indesign.
Although I am using the USA English dictionary there are hyphenation errors in the text.

One of the words is a common one "consumers" that is spelled as "consum-ers" (should be con-su-mers).

Has this happened to anyone else, any solutions?

I am using the Italian version of Indesign 19.0 on mac

 

Guido

 

Thanks

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Oct 30, 2023 Oct 30, 2023

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Community Expert ,
Oct 30, 2023 Oct 30, 2023

This does happen if I change the dictionary to Italian. 

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~Barb

 

PS My answers are out of order. I continued thinking about your question, and played with the Italian dictionary after noting that consumer is hyphenating correctly for me on my Mac on InDesign 19, but replied with the wrong button so it's showing up first.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 30, 2023 Oct 30, 2023

Hi @guidobis:

 

I'm not seeing that. (Ventura 13.6, InDesign 19.0) Can you double check the dictionary?

 

~Barb

 

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Community Expert ,
Oct 30, 2023 Oct 30, 2023

In your paragraph style did you define English US? Or did you make any override, eithe manually or with a character style?

Or did you write siome entries into the user dictionary for US Neglish?

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Community Expert ,
Oct 30, 2023 Oct 30, 2023

This. There sometimes seems to be confusion that hyphenation and spelling is defined in each Paragraph Style, not by a global setting. Every paragraph style, starting with whatever the body or base style is, needs to be checked if a missetting is found in any one of them.

 

(And Character Styles as well, especially if the document had alternate language settings, or imports or the like pulled them in.)

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Explorer ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

Paragraph and text style is correct (Usa english) as is the language shown in the tool bar.
I did not create the file and it may be that it was in another language (italian) at the start.
However do you guys know if there is a way to bring back in design to reason?

Thanks for the support, Guido

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Community Expert ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

If you are absolutely sure that all styles are set to USA English, you might try purging the file — save it to IDML, then open that file and save it under a new name as INDD. That often fixes 'structural' glitches, which this issue might be.

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Community Expert ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

Hi Guido:

 

Or can you share a page of the file so that we can take a look? 

 

~Barb

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Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023
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I'm not seeing the same issue here either. However, there is a difference if you use Proximity dictionaries (the old ones used up to CS6, and the newer Hunspell ones, but both show both hypehantion points.

In The Hunspell USA English dictionary, I'm seeing consumers with hypehanation possible in both places at equal importance (two tildes each), so will use the one closest to the frame, although the Paragraph Composer setting may choose a different one to make you paragraph look better. If you open User Dictionary, you can see where the breaks are defined by default:

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As a comparison, the Canadian and UK English give higher weight to the first break, indicated by two tildes vs one tilde. Hence, it would more often break at con-, but both are still possible.

If you want, you can add your own hyphenation preference to the User Dictionary and change the second break to one tilde, or delete the break you don't want altogether.

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OR, you can switch to Proximity, you will find the hyphanation importance changes to con~~sum~ers

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