InDesign crashes when formatting footnotes

Explorer ,
Jan 27, 2022 Jan 27, 2022

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I have a book with a single document in it of about 40K words with about 60 footnotes. Everything works fine until I try to change footnotes in any way, e.g. font size, font type, etc. Then InDesign freezes and I have to end it in task manager.

 

I thought it was the MS Word file I'm placing but then I copypasted the text into notepad (i.e. stripped all the formatting), copypasted back into a brand new Word file and re-created all the formatting. Same problem, so it's probably not a corrupted Word file.

 

I also created a new InDesign book and document from scratch, re-creating all paragraph styles and importing nothing but the re-created MS Word file. Same problem, so it's probably not a corrupted InDesign book or document.

 

Using InDesign 2022 v17.1

Running Windows 10

Intel i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.19 GHz

32GB RAM

 

Any help would be appreciated.

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Explorer , Jan 27, 2022 Jan 27, 2022

Rolling back to InDesign 2021 16.4.1 fixed the problem. The issue must be with a recent update.

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Jan 27, 2022 Jan 27, 2022

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Not sure why I can't edit this post. Anyway, here are the files if anyone wants to try it themselves:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kzk0knh3vlghpc3/AADllwOGMc6aOyZ4Be-A-i30a?dl=0

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Jan 27, 2022 Jan 27, 2022

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Tried trashing my preferences and exporting to IDML. Same problem, IDML file doesn't exactly crash but works so slowly that InDesign is unusable.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 27, 2022 Jan 27, 2022

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>>  IDML file doesn't exactly crash but works so slowly that InDesign is unusable.

Save this idml as new .indd file

 

 

Remember, never say you can't do something in InDesign, it's always just a question of finding the right workaround to get the job done. © David Blatner

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Tried saving the IDML back as INDD but it didn't work. I was able to get it to work only by:

 

- using my "stripped" and re-created Word file

- in a single document only, not attached to any book

- by applying a paragraph style to all footnotes in the "Document Footnotes Options" dialogue box

 

After doing this I could change the footnote font/style/etc. at will.

 

I suppose this is a workaround but very cumbersome. InDesign very buggy these days, I also noticed in a different project that I would select one paragraph style and it would apply another but on reboot it was resolved. Maybe v.17.1 needs more work.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 27, 2022 Jan 27, 2022

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I'm not having any trouble in version 17.0.1.

Try resetting the prefs: Reset InDesign Preferences and Other Troubleshooting 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
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I see you already did that. Might be a problem with the 17.1 update.

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Jan 27, 2022 Jan 27, 2022

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Is there any way to roll back to an earlier version?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 27, 2022 Jan 27, 2022

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You might try the suggestions at https://prodesigntools.com/creative-cloud-2022-direct-download-links.html

In the past the stand-alone installers have not been updated beyond the original releases.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 27, 2022 Jan 27, 2022

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Hi rexsacrorum,

downloaded your INDD document and your INDD book file.

Added your INDD document to the INDD book file.

Your story was in overflow. I corrected that.

Then I did a new paragraph style for the footnote texts.

Applied that in the footnote options.

 

InDesign froze and finally crashed.

( InDesign 2022 version 17.0.1.105 on Windows 10. )

 

So yes, I can confirm the issue.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Interesting. I've done essentially the same thing, same version of ID (except mine is US English as opposed to your German) and I've go no crash.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
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Hi Peter,

I based the new paragraph style for the footnote texts on an existing one.

Maybe that was the issue? No. Tried something else:

 

I did not add the INDD document to the INDD book file.

Applied my paragraph style as the one for the footnote texts in the Footnote Options.

This time I had no crash. Well. Not immediately. Fans of my laptop running high now and InDesign is freezing again. After some seconds while I was typing this message.

 

Will test with an exported IDML file opened in InDesign 2021 as well.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Been open here for over an hour with no crash. I based my new style on [No Style]

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Note: There is an imported character style "Footnote reference" that gave me headaches when I opened the exported IDML file in InDesign 2021. The used style there was named [Nothing] where in the InDesign 2022 version of the document the style was named Regular.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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I applied the existing reference style (and defined a new footnote style) in the document footnotes options dialog.

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Success:

No issues when I work with InDesign 2021 version 16.4.0.55.

Things I did: I replaced the imported character style with [None] ( Do not keep formatting. )

Added a new character style for the footnote references. Applied that through the Footnote Options.

Added a new paragraph style based on style [No Paragraph Style], applied that through the Footnote Options to the footnote texts. No crash. Changed that to my style that was based on an already used style. No crash.

 

Download the INDD 2021 document from my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6tignuw90hspfrv/Book%201-EDITED-4-2021.indd?dl=1

 

FWIW: InDesign 2022 is still freezing and crashing when I try to repeat the steps I did with InDesign 2021.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Rolling back to InDesign 2021 16.4.1 fixed the problem. The issue must be with a recent update.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 28, 2022 Jan 28, 2022

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Hi rexsacrorum,

I would do a bug report at InDesign UserVoice:

https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601180-adobe-indesign-bugs

 

Also post a link of this thread plus a link to your sample files in the report.

The engineers should look into that case.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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I voted and commented!

 

Thanks,
Uwe Laubender

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