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Merging template with page?

Explorer ,
Feb 22, 2019 Feb 22, 2019

So I got a document that has alot of templates but I need to place another template above all these pages, the problem is that when I do that there are alot of errors.

So is there a way to merge all current templates with pages so that there are no templates anymore so that I can place another template above all pages. Im fine with the document having a larger size.

Im just a bit lost and I dislike to manually fix things because it will probably leave errors.

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Advocate ,
Feb 22, 2019 Feb 22, 2019

If i understand you correct, youre talking of master pages when you refer to template?

Is it basically this you need?:

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Explorer ,
Feb 22, 2019 Feb 22, 2019

No not that, when I do that it works for some pages but it also deletes eleents of site and stuff, especially because the aster page is biger than the normal pages, I want to create a HUD for all sites

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Advocate ,
Feb 22, 2019 Feb 22, 2019

Okay, now I get you, and I can solve that:

Heres whats happening: If you assign the new masterpage, every object the previous masterpage is holding, gets replace by the whole content of the new masterpage. Thats the intention. I also get the same result, if I have a very small new masterpage, and I assign it, nearly everything gets flushed from the spreadsheet.

But we can work around this, try this:

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With the menuoption "Pass objects from masterpage" (my translation, maybe incorrect) you see the dotted outlines of the object get solid. That means these object actually are now on that page (and therefore are no more changeable in one source at the masterpages).

Second, assign your new masterpage.

For show, I choose a very small page to cause spreadsheet-problems. see what happens:

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Of course you want to assign the "use masterpage-spreaddimensions", right button.

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See? The page is very small, but nothing got lost. Maybe you have to pump up the spreadsheet a bit:

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Explorer ,
Feb 22, 2019 Feb 22, 2019

Again not what I needed, sorry for bothering, a guy will fix it, he is way better in indd than me.

The problem was when I place the Masterpage D into masterpage J, the masterpage J gets some elements deleted and because D is biger it makes th page biger but it makes the text not where it was before so I need to manially drag the page a bit up or down so the text is in place.

But no need for help anymore another person will take over this problem, thank you for your help tho, really dedicated to help:)

EDIT: Im not sure did you explane it correcly and actually solved the problem but from what I understood thats another problem, if you are sure you explaned it correcly tell me so I mark you that you explained correcly

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Advocate ,
Feb 22, 2019 Feb 22, 2019

Thanks for the flowers, but you dont need to do that. I actually didnt understand your goal, maybe a screenshot could have helped. Also, what are you trying to achieve? From my understanding, you have a doc with different masterpages and you want to create a "layer" above that, to …maybe show the different masterpages to a client like a ppt.

But did you know, that you can "place" InDesign-files into another InDesign-file as a image (like placing a pdf)?

Maybe you only need to "load" that document into your kiosk-document…

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Explorer ,
Feb 22, 2019 Feb 22, 2019

A PDF calendar, so the calendar is already there in INDD but I need to create a HUD around it with buttons that people can press and jump to the desired page, and every page should have the HUD. But I know close to nothing about INDD all I know is illustrator aniways. But he will fix it, wont bother you:) Maybe if he finds out I will type the answer.

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Enthusiast ,
Feb 22, 2019 Feb 22, 2019

I think taking DBLjan's advice will work for you. You can simply place an InDesign file (the completed calendar) page by page into a new InDesign document. Just use File > Place like you would with any other image. Make sure you have "Show Import Options" selected so you can choose which pages of the document to place on each page. Good luck!

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Community Expert ,
Feb 22, 2019 Feb 22, 2019
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Dein Englisch macht es schwer, Dir zu helfen, wenn man das dahinterliegende Deutsch nicht kennt.

Du meinst Musterseite, aber verwendest Template, was aber Dokumentenvorlage bedeutet und in InDesign eine INDT ist.

So, nun zu Deinem Problem:

Du hast die Seiten einzeln aufgebaut, aber in InDesign gibt es die Möglichkeit, die auch angewandt werden sollte, dass Musterseiten hierarchisch aufgebaut werden.

Sagen wir, Du hast Musterseite A, deren Elemente sollen auf allen anderen Musterseiten zu finden sein, dann baut man eine Musterseite B auf dieser Musterseite auf, ebenso eine Musterseite C, etc. Dann kann man beliebig Musterseiten auf B und C aufbauen. Jede Musterseite vererbt ihre Änderungen an ihre Kinder, sofern dieses Element nicht übergangen wurde.

Wichtig bei Musterseiten ist auch die Verwendung von Ebenen, die ein Durcheinander verhindern und die richtige Überlappung garantieren.

Und eines ist wichtig, auch wenn ich im Beispiel die Musterseiten A, B, C, etc. benannte, benenne diese um, verwende nicht die generischen Namen, sondern gib eindeutige beschreibende Namen, da es mit der Zeit schwierig wird, Abhängigkeiten im Dokument zu verfolgen.

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