PDF from InDesign is showing that Fonts I did not use

[Keri DL]

Hi all,

When I export InDesign files to PDF, and look at what fonts are in the PDF file, it shows a ton of extra fonts that are not visually present and are not used in the InDesign document. I susspect they are somehow hidden and embdded. But when I am in InDesign, and go to Find/Replace Fonts,  I do not see these hidden fonts that are being referenced in PDF. Anyone have a a solution for finding these fonts in InDesign and removing them?

Thank you!

[Eugene Tyson]

Can you please show a screenshot of indesign Find/Replace fonts and also Acrobat Font list

When you make the PDF - in the Font Subset could be including all the weights and variations of the font - just a guess.

Try setting this to 100%

[Eugene Tyson]

If it's not that - it could be code build up

If a document is not behaving well then try 

File>Export 

Choose IDML

Open the IDML in InDesign
Save the file as a new InDesign file with a new name
See if the issue persists.

[Keri DL]

I also did this as well and still having issues. Fonts are accurate in InDesign and the PDF is saying there are additional fonts. 

[Keri DL]

Opening the IDML file and saving with a new name doesn't seem to be helping either. Attatched are two screenshots:

• Fonts being used in InDesign
• An example of of other random fonts showing when exporting to PDF

[Keri DL]

Hi there, yes, subset fonts are set at 100% and all find/replace fonts are accurate.

[Jumpenjax]

Did you package the file first it may show the fonts that are giving trouble.

[Keri DL]

Yes, file has been packaged first. Still has issues in PDF.

[Eugene Tyson]

Try IDML posted earlier in thread and see if it works.

[Keri DL]

Yes, I tried this. In above comments, you can see screenshot of issues. 

[Jumpenjax]

All the fonts say they are ok in the package? Not just the pdf.

[Keri DL]

Yes, when packaging up, fonts are correct. When I open PDF I created, it is stating there are several other fonts that exist in document. 

[Dirk Becker]

Do you have any placed PDFs or EPS that could contain those fonts?

I think Find/Change fonts misses on bullet fonts (very old document format, nowadays bullets should use a character style), could that be the case here?

Does your document have a CJK history (e.g. edited in Japan) while you're using a western InDesign?

There are also other missed constellations (e.g. unused styles, overset) but those should not end up in a PDF.

Can you eventually share an example document?

[Eugene Tyson]

They'd still show up as fonts - I believe.

[Jumpenjax]

It is possible it is a space?

[Keri DL]

I have another thought. Is it possible that the PDF is recognizing fonts from images that are placed in document that have text in them?

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

No. 

What kind of files do you have linked / embedded in your document? 

[Keri DL]

Actually I think that is the issue. The images are graphs and were imported as images from Illustrator files. When I got into IDML file, I can see those unwanted fonts connected to AI files in the Indesign Document. When I go into PDF and select edit,  I can select the text in images and they match the the fonts that I was questioning.  

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

It's perfectly normal - I think InDesign is just embedding placed PDF / EPS files when exporting.

So anything that is inside - is just reported as a part of the finall PDF. 

[Keri DL]

Thank you all! It was good to talk through this process to figure it out.  

[Eugene Tyson]

Can you share files with us?

[Keri DL]

Unfortunately, it is against company policy to share work files but I think I figured out the issue. See the above comment.

[Willi Adelberger]

Does the font allow embedding? If not, use a different font with a licence to embedf at least subsets.