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Text disappearing - In Design CC on PC

New Here ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

We have a new high spec PC and new installation of CC (ID 13.0.1 x64). First job in and text randomly disappears. I googled it and it looks to be something to do with the text frame refresh. When you click out of the text box and do something (highlight, put a space etc) the text reappears. This is a total nightmare. I'm trying to get my designers to change to PCs and this isn't helping the cause.

I have read that this issue has been around for years on both Mac and PC.

Pics attached. The first one shows the text missing but highlighted, the second is after an action - ta dah, the text appears.

Have changed the Live Screen Drawing pref to Immediate.

Is there a fix?

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Community Expert , Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

Then suffice it to say that the processor is fine but the rest of the machine is bit weak especially for display purposes.

Are you sure you have the most up to date drivers? They were updated in December.

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/88345/Intel-HD-Graphics-530

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New Here ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

Also, the old issue of only 1 or no undos is back. When I read up about the text issue it seems to be when you get one of the issues, you get the other too.

I wonder if they are related.

This has been around since 2014 - all a bit odd.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

It definitely seems to be a display issue. I’d try disabling the GPU as a start. You can do this by clicking on the rocket ship icon in the Application bar and unchecking GPU Performance.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

Chad, GPU performance is Mac only.

The last thing I would do is change redraw to immediate. That tends to slow performance.

Try checking for updated video drivers.

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New Here ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

Drivers are all up to date.

Ctrl - Alt - / refreshes the frames but that is only a workaround.

Any other thoughts?

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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

Unfortunately no, I’ve seen this in the past but CC2018 runs beautifully for me on Windows 10.

What are your full system specs?

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New Here ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

Brand new PC running windows 10. 64bit build

i7 processor @ 3.4 GHz

8gb RAM

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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

Does it have dedicated graphics?

8 gb of RAM is not very much especially without a dedicated video card.

I’ve got a 2gb video card and 32 GB of RAM. Even my laptop with integrated graphics has 16GB of RAM

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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

Good point Bob. I overlooked that!

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New Here ,
Jan 03, 2018 Jan 03, 2018
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Thanks for the replies so far. I'll price up some more RAM and tr a few things suggested.

Failing that I guess it's a new video card.

Cheers for the help.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

I've seen this before. I suspect a font issue. What happens if you change the text to a different font?

Also, have you rebuilt your InDesign preferences on startup?

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New Here ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

No, not a font issue.

Graphics card - intel HD graphics 530?

I'm not an expert on the PC tbh.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

Then suffice it to say that the processor is fine but the rest of the machine is bit weak especially for display purposes.

Are you sure you have the most up to date drivers? They were updated in December.

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/88345/Intel-HD-Graphics-530

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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2018 Jan 02, 2018

I agree with Bob--the computer could certainly use more RAM and a better video card.

When you say it was not a font issue, you changed the font, including styling, to another regular-style font--correct?

Did you rebuild your prefs? (Hold down Cntl-Alt-Shift as soon as you start up InDesign.)

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