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Text layer disappears every time I stop typing. Reappears when I start typing again.

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Jul 02, 2021 Jul 02, 2021

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2020 M1 MacBook Air, OS 11.4

InDesign 16.2.1

 

When I stop typing, the text box disappears. As soon as I start typing again it reappears. See GIF for what I mean. I can't find any other mention of this problem online, but it's incredibly annoying and makes it very difficult to get work done. If anyone has a solution that would be so appreciated. I'm happy to provide any other information that may help troubleshoot.

 

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Jul 02, 2021 Jul 02, 2021

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There is a beta version of InDesign that is designed to work with the new M1 chip. Please take a look at this page: https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/indesign-beta-for-apple-silicon-inviting-users-to-test-and-s...

 

~Barb 

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Jul 02, 2021 Jul 02, 2021

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Wow – the M1 lineup came out eight months ago and we're still in beta? Is that a typical timeline?

 

InDesign works fine in every other regard, so I'm concerned that beta testing would just trade one bug for a whole slew of new bugs..

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Jul 02, 2021 Jul 02, 2021

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Don't think that Adobe were slow to get it working. 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/indesign-16-0-16-1-crashing-my-brand-new-macbook-air-apple-m...

 

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The problems are two-fold. Your new ARM chip (M1)-based Mac uses a totally different microprocessor than the one that the Adobe applications were designed and compiled for. With these new systems, Apple has provided an Intel instruction set emulator (Rosetta 2) to make it appear to the application that the system indeed has an Intel processor running on an Intel-based Mac. But there have been “issues” with that emulator.

 

Adobe is in the process of providing “M1-native” versions of Adobe Creative Cloud and Document Cloud applications for these new Mac systems, but until those are ready (and we are doing our best to get those updated versions completed, tested, and released ASAP) and/or Apple fixes a number of its Rosetta 2 and MacOS issues, running on a “bleeding edge” system for production purposes is problematic.

 

Sorry!

 

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
 

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https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/indesign-and-the-apple-m1-chip/m-p/11709997#M408922

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Adobe is actively working to make versions of all current applications that are native to the ARM processor which is part of Apple's M1 and future “computer on a chip” systems. No date has been announced yet for such releases.

 

That having been said, I personally believe that unless you are primarily looking for bragging rights about having “the latest and greatest” new toy from Cupertino, it might be prudent to wait a while until at least the next round of models are unleashed by Apple. Beyond resolving both operating system and application problems (and synchronization of same), the current M1 chip-based computers have two severe limitations that are fairly problematic for serious graphic arts production:

 

Small screens – The MacBook Air has a 13.3" screen. The MacBook Pro has a 13" screen, neither of which are reasonable for the type of work you are planning. Even a 15" or 16" Intel-based MacBook Pro is cutting it close. You would definitely need an external screen for either of these 13.x" systems to be at all usable.

 

Insufficient Memory – These initial models support only 8GB and 16GB versions of the M1 chip and this memory is shared between a number of components on the M1 chip. I think that most InDesign users and especially those users who are simultaneously running multiple applications (such as Illustrator, Photoshop, and Acrobat in addition to InDesign, not to mention some type of mail client and browsers) would recommend at least 32GB of memory. 

 

Rumors are that more heavy duty configurations of the Mx-based MacBook Pro with larger screens, more memory, and larger SSDs are on the horizon. I believe that waiting a while will be rewarded significantly in terms of hardware that really meets your needs, less “issues” with MacOS, and ARM-native applications.

 

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/indesign-unusable-with-macbook-m1-chip/m-p/11887182#M417646

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It isn't a matter of playing "catchup" in any way. Apple released new, incompatible hardware (not just the CPU, by the way), totally new program development tools, a problematic Intel instruction emulator, and very few prototype systems for application developers to work with prior to releasing all of this. Oh, and by the way it was accompanied by a major new incompatible OS release.

 

Contrary to the religious beliefs of some of the fanboys, no application developer is sitting on their tuchas and holding back on developing ARM-chip native versions of their applications. We have no incentive to do such foolishness.

 

On the other hand, based on the 38 year history of the Macintosh and the continual dramatic, incompatible hardware and software changes made by Apple over that time, it should be apparent that being “the first on the block” to acquire the latest shiny new toy from the Cathedral of St. Steve-the-Infallible and trying to use same for production work is just not prudent.

 

FWIW, today, March 10, 2021, Adobe did release an ARM-native version of Photoshop for MacOS. Other applications such as InDesign will follow when they are ready!

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The version of InDesign which runs natively for an M1 processor like you have will be arriving soon (it is available for a few scattered regions around the world). It is InDesign 2021 v. 16.3.2. Look or it in a few days and download it from the Creative Cloud desktop app. Earlier verions like the one you are running are using a "translator" which runs slower and is pretty buggy.

 

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Can't wait. Thanks for the heads up. Surprised more people haven't been outspoken about this. Eight months of bugginess seems like an inordinately long time but maybe I'm just being impatient.

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You're being impatient. 

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I don’t think it is being impatient to expect a native version of InDesign a year after developer kits were vailable. We’re not talking about a small single office developer here. Adobe is one of the wealthiest and most powerful software companies in history.

 

Oh, and the beta has expired.

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Jul 28, 2021 Jul 28, 2021

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I updated to the native M1 supported version, and absolutely nothing whatsoever changed. InDesign remains unusable with all of the same bugs as previously mentioned.

 

Forgive me for still being impatient. I've wasted hours of unbillable time dealing with these bugs. Oh, and I'm very much still paying for CC.

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Jul 29, 2021 Jul 29, 2021

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I am having the same issues with the latest 16.3.2 version (I also have an M1 Macbook Air)

It has gotten worse, Indesign does not always update the text as you make changes. Most of the time the entire text box disappears, and you either have to zoom in or out, flip pages or close the entire document and open again.

It is crazy and very frustrating.

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I have seen this problem as well. I think I only had it with the beta version. Also M1.

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Jul 03, 2021 Jul 03, 2021

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I agree with Dov Isaacs, Adobe Principal Scientist, as extensively quoted by Eugene Tyson above.

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Jul 28, 2021 Jul 28, 2021

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Updated to 16.3.2 (native M1 support) and all of the same bugs are present.

 

When should I expect these to be fixed, if ever?

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Jul 28, 2021 Jul 28, 2021

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Check for bugs and logs here.

https://indesign.uservoice.com/

 

This is a user to user forum and we are just users like yourself.

 

Adobe staff sometimes post but you're 100% better off searching for your bug over there and if it's not there then you can raised one.

 

The InDesign feedback pages are monitored by adobe staff

 

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Jul 29, 2021 Jul 29, 2021

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Hi akogan0716,

or join InDesign prerelease:

https://www.adobeprerelease.com/

 

Or use this one directly:

https://www.adobeprerelease.com/beta/C6DFA254-C40C-4EEB-8F6D-F4AEDA2E6171

 

You should be greeted like that:

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Source:

https://medium.com/adobetech/how-to-join-creative-cloud-prerelease-programs-ccecc10ae7d3

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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