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The lower line of the header cell is 0.25mm by default? I didn't set this number, I don't need it

Enthusiast ,
Apr 17, 2024 Apr 17, 2024

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 did not set the thickness of the lower line in the unit pattern.

I just want to let the header style of the header control my text.
Use the table style to directly control the thickness of the line, columns, and frames.

 

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Community Expert , Apr 17, 2024 Apr 17, 2024

The thing is that your applied cell style has no value defined for that stroke weight:

 

Bildschirmfoto 2024-04-17 um 12.46.15.png

 

Simply apply a stroke weight in the cell style and you are good to go.

 

 

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Uwe Laubender
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Hi @dublove ,

the values could be different if you select more than one cell.

So InDesign cannot show a distinct value for your selection.

 

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Hi @dublove ,

downloaded your sample InDesign document. With my German InDesign 2024 version 19.3.0.58 I can see that all cells in the first row of the table use the same stroke width for the lower stroke; and that is 0.25 mm:

 

Bildschirmfoto 2024-04-17 um 12.43.39.png

 

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The thing is that your applied cell style has no value defined for that stroke weight:

 

Bildschirmfoto 2024-04-17 um 12.46.15.png

 

Simply apply a stroke weight in the cell style and you are good to go.

 

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
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Unfortunately, you can't always understand what I mean

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@dublove said: "… Use the table style to directly control the thickness of the line, columns, and frames."

 

Well, your table style named "tab" alread applies cell style "head" to the table's header row. So if you set a value in cell style "head" it would be applied to the table. Of course, provided the table's table style is "tab" and there actually is a header row. In your sample docment that is the case.

 

See my screenshot where I applied a new stroke weight and a color to the lower stroke in the cell style "head":

 

Bildschirmfoto 2024-04-17 um 14.07.57.png

 

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@dublove 's title says: "… I didn't set this number, I don't need it "

 

Hm. Yes, If I add a new table in your document with the default table style I see that all inner cell's stroke weight is 0.25 mm. That's not InDesign's default for the default table style where all stroke weights are defined as 1 Pt. Did you do this document from scratch? If yes it could be that InDesign's defaults were changed when no document was open.

 

Just an idea…

 

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Uwe Laubender
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Unfortunately, you can't always understand what I mean

Yes, do you have said this to us (and to me, directly) before.

 

Our response has been to ask you to consider typing in your own language and allow us to use the translate button. That will likely reduce at least some of the confusion. Or you can persist and continue to explain what you meant, until we do understand what it is you are asking—your choice. Please be patient with us, as we will be with you. We are volunteers—we are not paid staff—instead we are experts in our field and we choose to help others by sharing our knowledge when we have time to spare. 

 

What is it you want the line underneath the header row to look like? Thin like the others, or invisible? Either way, Uwe has already provided the correct answer: define the line under the header row in the cell style.

 

I understand your words: "use the table style to directly control the thickness of the line" but we have to work with InDesign's feature set. You can control the line under the header row by modifying the header row cell style definition, just like Uwe said. An empty text box does not mean zero—it means leave it as is—you need to define a value if you want to change what it looks like. Once you do, assigning the table style will take care of it.

 

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And as for the "The lower line of the header cell is 0.25mm by default? I didn't set this number, I don't need it"—this is an override. Overrides can float in from Word, from Excel or assigned in InDesign (intentionally or unintentionally). To restore the table to the default settings for that file (and your file has table overrides already in place so it will go back to your defaults, and not InDesign's defaults), select it and Alt/Opt click on [Basic Table], [None] and [Basic Paragraph]. I do this routinely before starting to format any table. If you are interested, you can learn more about how InDesign handles defaults here: https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-indesign-setting-and-removing-defaults/.

 

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I wish you the best, @dublove.

 

~Barb

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What I want to ask is, where did this 0.25mm come from?
I think this is the default edge of the header cell style, which may be a bug of Indesign. This pre -set should not exist.
When you reference the header cell style in the table style, 0.25mm will appear by default, unless you set this value unless you set it up.

However, sometimes for simple tables, we don't need this value.
I only rely on the table style to implement the control of the table.

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I now find that these may have nothing to do with the style of the header unit.
As long as you execute: table menu> turn to table> to the header, then 0.25mm will appear

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