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View spreads as single-page column like Acrobat PDF pages?

Engaged ,
Jul 11, 2024 Jul 11, 2024

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Sometimes, I'm working in InDesign on my 40" ultrawide monitor at home. Sometimes, I'm working whilst traveling using my 14" laptop screen. When I'm working on my laptop, I would really, really, REALLY like to be able to edit my document without having to scroll WAY right and WAY up to get to the next odd page. I would like to view the spreads as a single-page column, just for easy of editing. I want to be able to simply scroll up and down to review and edit, like in Acrobat. I don't want the document to BE single page spreads, I just want to be able to scroll smoothly downwards on my laptop to review and edit a document. Is this possible? If not, is this worth a feature request?

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Jul 11, 2024 Jul 11, 2024

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Shift + PageUp/PageDown - jumps from page to page.

Alt + PageUp/PageDown - jumps from spread to spread.

 

But if you are editing text - then maybe Ctrl/Cmd+Y - Story Editor?

Or Copy Editor (Beta):

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Jul 11, 2024 Jul 11, 2024

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One of my few dogged key remaps is that of PageUp and PageDn to "Previous Spread" and "Next Spread," so that the screen jumps a whole, centered "page" instead of some random screen height. I find the default page-up/page-down function between annoying and useless.


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Jul 11, 2024 Jul 11, 2024

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Slightly off topic, but this thread made me realize that Apple is now using misleading symbols for the Page Up/Down keys:

 

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I think that many unsuspecting users will take it for the Arrow Up/Down keys, and thus the shortcuts won't do anything.

 

I dug up a screenshot from an older system where Apple did use the proper Page Up/Down icons:

 

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Jul 12, 2024 Jul 12, 2024

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Thanks, Robert. You always have good suggestions. I didn't think to try these shortcuts,, and I should have thought of trying them.

 

One of the problems I've had with navigating spreads in InDesign on my laptop is that my mouse scroll wheel tilts for horizontal scrolling. Very nice. Except that I kept overshooting and having to use the mouse pointer on the scroll bar to get centered on the page. What a (time-consuming, irritating) pain.

 

My laptop mouse is a Logitech MX Anywhere 2s, which is a wonderful mouse, except for this one problem. So I downloaded the Logitech Options program, and checked: I was able to reprogram the "apeed" (actually the distance, at least in InDesign) for lateral scrolling by tilting the scroll wheel left or right. I changed it from 50% (default) to 8%. At least with this mouse and this laptop, this allows me to center the page quickly by tilting the scroll wheel.

 

But I was at the bottom of Page 14, with the zoom at page width, so just the bottom portion of Page 14 was showing. I then tried Shift-PgDn and then found myself on Page 15. Yay! But, at the very bottom of the page. Boo! What I want to do is skip quickly from the bottom of Page 14 to the top of Page 15.

 

As far as Story Editor, for this project I'm editing the text and making sure the graphics are in the right place, and occasionally, so I need to edit with the graphics showing. (One of the advantages and disadvantages of a single-author textbook where I'm also doing all the page layout as well.)

 

As far as Copy Editor, I liked it until it started crashing InDesign, so I haven't used it for quite a while. The fact that it's still (Beta) makes me wary. Isn't there a rule about how long a feature can be in beta?

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Jul 12, 2024 Jul 12, 2024

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Three things —

 

There are many "page up/page down" commands in the Edit | Keyboard Shortcuts | Layout Menu list; you might work through them and see if any of the less common ones meet your exact needs and wishes. (Then remap them to sensible keys for your use.)

 

In my experience, the default Page Up/Page Down do exactly what you say you want, moving the view up or down one SCREEN height, which usually puts you in a sort of half-arsed, partial-view, where-the-hell-am-I viewport. I hate it. These use the Next Page/Previous Page commands by default.

 

The Prev Spread/Next Spread commands, as I noted, jump to a full-height view of the prior or next whole spread, which is what I find most useful most of the time.

 

But note there are also other commands that will jump, for example to the Left Spread or Right Spread. Experiment with them all and map them to convenient keys and all of your issues should be resolved.


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Engaged ,
Aug 17, 2024 Aug 17, 2024

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Well, I have tried all the available page navigation commands and none do what I want. What I want to do is, when working on my laptop, zoomed in on the bottom of a page, to jump to the top of the next page. I have to use the mouse (assuming I have a flat place to use a mouse) to manually reposition, or go to the very end of the text on the page and hit the right-arrow key. Sigh.

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Aug 17, 2024 Aug 17, 2024

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So you want a clean jump from A (red circle) to B1 or B2 (yellow/green)?

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I'm not sure that fits within any model of scrolling. But it should be possible to write a script that does it, using the more standard page-jump commands. Next/Prev Spread jumps from one spread to the next showing the same zoomed region, and Prev/Next page goes from page to page at the same zoom/focus. That combined with the (unassigned, I think) Go Up and Go Down, which seem to be about a screen height, might get you where you want to be.


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