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While create PS to PDF using this font Rusted Brushpen.otf Capital letters converted to Small letters

Participant ,
Feb 07, 2019 Feb 07, 2019

While creating PS to PDF in indesign CC 2015 or 2019 using this font Rusted Brushpen.otf Capital letters converted to Small letters. I attached screenshot for your reference. In indesign the character look fine but in PDF (Ps to PDF) it converted to small letter.

While doing export PDF that fonts look fine in PDF but font show as Identity-H

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Feb 07, 2019 Feb 07, 2019

There is nothing wrong with Identity-H encoding of fonts in PDF. Use PDF export instead of distilling PostScript!

          - Dov

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
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Community Expert ,
Feb 07, 2019 Feb 07, 2019

wow.. distilling PS. I haven't thought of that phrase in forever! LOL!

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Participant ,
Feb 07, 2019 Feb 07, 2019

We already explain to our client that PS to PDF is old method. But our client still need that type of  pdf only (Ps to PDF). So there is any option to fix this issue.

Becuase of Identity-H if we use for some other extraction process it will create junk character.

Identity-H will create any issue in printing.

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Enthusiast ,
Feb 08, 2019 Feb 08, 2019

...our client still need that type of  pdf only (Ps to PDF).... So there is any option to fix this issue.

Have they tried PDF/X-1a export settings?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 08, 2019 Feb 08, 2019

As long as the text is in final form, and doesn't need to be further edited when you present the job, I would suggest you first highlight the type and use the Type>Create Outlines menu command to convert the display type into drawings of text characters.

I just helped another client with this very same issue. She was getting poor rendering of a TrueType display font when she went for digital printing and converting the display type to outlines fixed her problem. Hopefully this will work well for you too.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 08, 2019 Feb 08, 2019

While that’s a decent last ditch effort, the OP indicated that this information would have to be extracted from the PDF, so I don’t think this is going to help.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 08, 2019 Feb 08, 2019

can you explain the details of the  'extraction process' that might help us generating some useful tips.

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People's Champ ,
Feb 08, 2019 Feb 08, 2019

Returning to the original post...

gansanban said that his InDesign text with initial caps changed to lower case when the PDF was made (let's exclude for now his method of making the PDF).

The Hill

became

the hill

The font didn't change; instead, the characters changed. "T" (GID 53 / Unicode 0054) became "t" (GID 85 / Unicode 0074).

@Dov_Issacs, what would cause a character change during the creation of a PDF, via either Export/PDF or distilling a PS file?

Wondering:

  1. If gansanbanhard-typed the phrase in lower case letters, and then used various InDesign tools to "render" the text as initial caps (from the control panel's button to change case or from Type / Change Case / Title Case), could this have caused the error?
  2. Or if gansanban had hard-typed it as he wanted it to appear, as "The Hill," what would have caused the caps to switch to lowercase? They are not the same GID/Unicode gylphs.

We run into similar issues with caps/lowercase rendering versus hard-wired content in our automated publishing and tagged PDF projects. Example: if I type "I NEED MORE DINOSAUR FONTS" in all caps rather than render it in all-caps, screen readers and other assistive technologies are likely to voice it as I-N-E-E-D-M-O-R-E-D-I-N-O-S-A-U-R-F-O-N-T-S, letter by letter as if it's an acronym.

Could his method of making the caps be the root problem here?

I'm also assuming that if he had exported to PDF rather than distilled a PS file, the export utility would have retained the original glyphs AND their rendering without a problem.

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Participant ,
Feb 12, 2019 Feb 12, 2019
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Hi Bevi

Thanks for your reply. We have used the 2nd method for keying that text. If we use some other font for the same text output is fine. But for this particular font alone we are facing this issue.

We also suggested our client to go for Export pdf option particulary for this title alone.

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