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Why is elements outside margins visible when printed?

Explorer ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

I getting Close to end my work in InDesign, partly thanks to the help I received here,

however when I print out the document elements that is outside the preset margins is visible, making the Whole thing looking less Professional obviously.

Do I really have to adjust the pics and text boxes to be in line With the margins, or is there any way to cut the elements outside the margins when I print?

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

You can adjust your print settings (Bleed and Slug) to print only items within the page margins.

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Explorer ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

I tried checking out for slugs and set 12,7 mm., but that just made 1/3 of the pages getting the pic cutted in edge and some of it seem to be showed in the edge of the next page(!)

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

Do I really have to adjust the pics and text boxes to be in line With the margins, or is there any way to cut the elements outside the margins when I print?

I tried checking out for slugs and set 12,7 mm., but that just made 1/3 of the pages getting the pic cutted in edge and some of it seem to be showed in the edge of the next page(!)

Just to clarify the terminology, the margin, trim, bleed, and slug are all different page elements. Here from the inside to the outside: the magenta line is the margin, the black line is the trim (everything inside of the trim mark will show in the finished page), the red line is the bleed, and the cyan line is the slug. Any page item between the trim and the slug will be trimmed of in the bindery.

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With facing page documents the inside bleed has to come from the opposite page—the inside bleed gets removed when the pages are imposed by the printer.

This would include an inside bleed and slug from the opposite page:

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While this would not include an inside bleed or inside slug:

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

Sounds like you have bleed enabled. Check that first.

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Explorer ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

No bleed is enabled as far I can see..

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

Print from a PDF produced from InDesign, not directly from InDesign.

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Explorer ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

Tried, does not make any difference.

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

Be warned that not having any Bleed is considered "less Professional"!

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1. Do not cut off your images, or any other content that runs up to the edge, at that edge, ever. There Must be Bleed. Printers need it so they are not required to cut the printed pages with sub-millimeter accuracy (which seems easy enough for a single page; but is very hard to do with whole stacks of pages, even though they prefer this over cutting one page at a time).

2. Only when exporting or printing for proofing purposes, disable bleed if you want a general idea of how the final processed pages will look. When creating a final to-be-printed PDF, (a) verify that all images and other edge-side content have enough bleed, (b) you have enabled Bleed in the export, and (c) that it appears in the final PDF as it should.

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Explorer ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

No Pictures runs up to the edge. If sure look more Professional im Magazines and such, but in a paper/document, which is what I make, the pics should not rundt out to the paper edge.

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

Are you saying that images are extending outside their frames?

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Explorer ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

No, I intentionally sat the frames to extend outside the slug line to be sure that doesn't end up uneven.

Your question indicate that I totally misunderstood and the slug line only work as a guide and that I have to set the frames to the slug myself?

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

English is obviously not your first language so perhaps we're losing something in the translation.

Can you post screenshots of what you see in InDesign and a picture of what the print out looks like?

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

Hi Mikael:

No, I intentionally sat the frames to extend outside the slug line to be sure that doesn't end up uneven.

It might be helpful to clarify the terms:

  • The slug line (blue) is an area that is defined beyond the paper edge and bleed lines—it is a place for notes (often for the printer) that won't show up in the final document because it is well beyond the trim (or page edge).
  • Bleed lines (red) define a small area that is outside the page edge. To print to the paper’s edge without any margins around your design, first extend your design into a bleed area so it’s slightly larger than your finished print size. Then add crop marks, which show where to trim the paper to the document’s finished print size. Your design should extend past these crop marks. The excess will be trimmed off after it’s printed, and your design will cover the entire page.
  • The page edge is black and the margins are pink and purple.

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I'm unclear if the frames aren't lining up with the margins (you need to fix those yourself) or if you are worried that they extend beyond the bleed. Note that the bleed and slug areas are discarded when the document is trimmed to its final page size. Objects outside the bleed or slug area (whichever extends farthest) are not printed.

~Barb

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

We'll have to wait for the OP, but I'm going to put my money on "slug line" to mean the graphic frame.

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Guru ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

i will get in on that action with you Bob. I think they have a big bleed set up

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

Okay…Beers next time you’re in my neck of the woods.

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Community Expert ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

The slug also can come from the opposite page in a facing page document with an inside bleed included. So with an Inside Bleed and Include Slug Area checked:

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Guide ,
Mar 29, 2019 Mar 29, 2019

I'm also having hard time to understand exactly what you mean, but let's have a try.

If I understand correctly, you are not going to send out the PDF to a professional printer, but that you will print it on an office printing machine.

Meaning, no bleed, no trim, but - is that what you want?- even blank margins all around the final document?

Are you saying that your document looks like this:

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That the printed output looks like this:

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And that you want it to print like this:

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Am I correct ?

If so, it will be easier to advise, if not, please show us some screenshots... (normal view)

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Explorer ,
Apr 02, 2019 Apr 02, 2019

Hey, sry for the late response guy. I haven't been online in the (extended) weekend.

Yes, this is a pretty good example showing the issue. I thought the margin would give me the result in the print you showing last even if the frames reach outside the margin.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 02, 2019 Apr 02, 2019
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Hi MikaelFL:

InDesign offers numerous alignment aids in addition to lining objects up on the bleed lines or margin guides:

  1. Window > Object & Layout > Align
  2. Pull ruler guides out of the rulers
  3. Create a grid with:
    • Layout > Create Guides
    • View > Grids & Guides > Document Grid
  4. Smart Guides

For more information, see: Use grids in Adobe InDesign​; Create and work with ruler guides in InDesign

~Barb

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