With CS4, some things have changed

[_Dave_Saunders_]

This topic is not about new features but changes, primarily in the object model, that will affect scripts that run perfectly well under CS3.

Bear in mind that as before, you can create a folder for previous version scripts and run from there, in which case the previous object model is employed -- indeed, CS4 allows you to do this for scripts all the way back to CS scripts. The Object Model Viewer in ESTK, once you've initialized it by opening it once and choosing the InDesign CS4 Object Model, allows you to see all four supported object models.

[_Dave_Saunders_]

The TextWrapPreferences property previously known as textWrapType is now called textWrapMode.

This affected my WrapNudger. To see how I handled the change so WrapNudger would work with both CS3 and CS4, see this topic in my blog.

Dave

[srakete]

Hi,

it looks like that with 6.0.2 Adobe changed the textWrapPreferences property textWrapMode back to textWrapType as it was in CS3.

Or am I totally confused now ?

Stefan

[Guest]

Hi Stefan,

It didn't change. Is it possible that you're looking at/using the CS3 version of the scripting DOM?

Thanks,

Ole

[srakete]

Hi Olav,

yes I was confused scripting for two versions.

With this it works for both versions now:

var APP_INT_VERSION = parseInt(app.version);

if (APP_INT_VERSION == 6) {

     myCurrentFrame.textWrapPreferences.textWrapMode = TextWrapModes.BOUNDING_BOX_TEXT_WRAP;

} else {

     myCurrentFrame.textWrapPreferences.textWrapType = TextWrapTypes.BOUNDING_BOX_TEXT_WRAP;

}

Thanks Stefan

[Harbs.]

Stefen,

Just a heads up...

Since they're probably not changing the TextWrapModes back, you'd be

better off with:

if (APP_INT_VERSION >= 6) {...

Harbs

[sstanleyau]

One thing to watch for, which isn't really a scripting change but may well<br />affect scripts, is the change to the way rulers work when the document<br />origin is set to spine.<br /><br />In CS4, the rulers measure out from the spine, with values to the left<br />negative and values to the right positive. This means, for example, items on<br />page 2 of a typical facing pages document will have bounds such that x2 is<br />less than x1 if the origin is set to spine.<br /><br />It might be prudent to start setting the origin to a known value at the<br />beginning of some scripts, to avoid surprises.<br /><br />Ironically, the values returned in CS4 match the way they were returned when<br />scripting InDesign (but not in the UI) many versions ago.<br /><br />-- <br />Shane Stanley <sstanley@myriad-com.com.au>

[Harbs.]

Hi Dave,

Thankfully, this thread should be much much shorter than the CS3 one.
There have been very few changes that will effect existing scripts. How
about starting another thread for new features? There's a number of new
features I'm quite happy about! (Like UndoMode, isValid, ScriptUI
enhancements, etc.) I think they're worth discussing.

--
Harbs
http://www.in-tools.com

[Peter Kahrel]

At http://www.kahrel.plus.com/indesign/pdf_dictionaries.html is a list with all properties, methods, and enumerations of InDesign's CS4 object model. New items are highlighted, so that it is easy to see what has been added since CS3.

Peter

[_Dave_Saunders_]

Harbs,

You're welcome to start such a topic. I'll make sure it stays at or near the top.

Dave

[_Dave_Saunders_]

In CS3, the object class for a page imported from another InDesign document was:

ImportedPage

but the name of its collection class was:

IndesignPageItems

and the corresponding properties followed this naming convention. Thus, for example:

myRectangle.indesignPageItems

In CS4, this inconsistency has been fixed. The collection is now properly named:

ImportedPages

and the corresponding properties are also renamed:

myRectangle.importedPages

Dave

[Peter Kahrel]

textWrapType(s) is now textWrapMode(s)

So instead of this:
>myObj.textWrapPreferences.textWrapType = TextWrapTypes.jumpObjectTextWrap

You need this:
>myObj.textWrapPreferences.textWrapMode = TextWrapModes.jumpObjectTextWrap

Seems a rather awkward thing to change.

Peter

[_Olav_Kvern_]

Hi Peter,

I'm pretty certain that that change has to do with a language-specific problem--probably an AppleScript term conflict.

Thanks,

Ole

[Peter Kahrel]

Ole,

Well, I ran a CS3 script in CS4 that contained a line with ...textWrapType = TextWrapTypes..., which errored out on that line. Looked up "textWrapType" in the OMV but it wasn't listed there, and found textWrapMode instead. After changing that, the script ran fine in CS4.

Peter

[_Dave_Saunders_]

Nobody reads message 1.

Dave

[Peter Kahrel]

>Nobody reads message 1.

Groan... Sorry about that! I read it at the time and forgot about it, too.

Peter

[_Dave_Saunders_]

The Text.appliedNestedStyle property has been changed to:

Text.appliedNestedStyles

because a character can now have more than one character style applied by nesting.

Dave

[_Christoph_Schmitt_]

I guess not too many scripts will have problems with this change, but you never know:

You have a document with 2 facing pages, and they are not allowed to shuffle like this [1-2].

Now you use in VB the command:

oDocument.Spreads.Add

In all previous CS Versions, InDesign created a new Spread consisting of 2 facing pages 3-4. 3 is a left page and 4 a right page. As I wanted

Now in CS4 you get as well 2 new pages, but they are not facing. Page 3 is a right page and page 4 is a single left page.

So my solution just adding 2 new spreads, take the pages you want to keep toghether disable shuffling and delete the unused pages.

Christoph

[ianwhit]

I don't know if this is applicable here but can anyone throw some light on the MS Word import.

We have it working fine on Server CS3 just fine but not on Server CS4. It only imports text formatting, not tables, images, etc. And if it comes across, say an image first it fails to import anything else.

I can't find any documentation/threads on this as yet. So any pointers greatly appreciated.

ta!

[_Olav_Kvern_]

Hi Ian,

What that probably means is that there are differences in the Word/RTF import preferences between the two installations--have you compared those?

Thanks,

Ole

[ianwhit]

If I import a doc like this how do I set preferences?

myTextFrame.Place "test.doc"

----
WordRTFImportPreference
preserveGraphics
etc

Seems everything was on by default in CS3 but tables and graphics need prefs specifying in CS4 (I can get text formatting)

any pointers greatly appreciated

many thanks

newb

[_Olav_Kvern_]

Hi Ian,

Something like this:

Rem Given an instance of InDesign "myInDesign"...

myInDesign.WordRTFImportPreferences.PreserveGraphics = True

myInDesign.WordRTFImportPreferences.ConvertTablesTo = idUnformattedTable

Rem ...set other import preferences...

Rem Now do your place operation

Thanks,

Ole

[ianwhit]

It wasn't that after all. But another 'slight' difference causing stuff not to show up. Seems measurements need to be explicit ie: in CS3 24 was 24mm in CS4 24mm is 24mm!

also idUnformattedTable needs a value in VB I presume
UNFORMATTED_TABLE
UNFORMATTED_TABBED_TEXT
are they

I'll run a series of benchmarks at the weekend and post results.

The differences between CS3 and CS4 post idea is an excellent idea by the way DS

[_kan_]

In postscipt file export pdf, it throw a error like "PAGEMARKS DEFINITION FILE ERROR" i need soultion for this.
regards,
kan

[_Dave_Saunders_]

When you say, "it," what exactly are you talking about? And which scripting language did you use?

Dave