P: Cropped images unexpectedly change crop location

What specific cropping problems are you referring to?

And in what precise version of LR are you seeing them occur?

Are you kidding me! This problem has been known for over two years and is still an issue? I just downloaded the free trial to test LR before buying it and after 24 hours w/ these cropping problems I'm ready to pull my hair out. Don't think I'll be buying this piece of crap - very disappointing as I've had good experiences w/ earlier LR versions.

It looks like this is a different issue so I am splitting it into its own thread.

Please reference the new conversation here: Lightroom: Crop Changes unexepectedly when moving to the next image

I might have something... if my post from yesterday evening (Nov. 3rd 2014) starting "The problem still exists in LR 5.6 on a Mac 10.7.5... " is from around 21:48:59 CET, possibly about 15 minutes or even half an hour later ... than I think I know what is going on internally as I can find a message from Lightroom in my console stating "03.11.14 21:48:54,472 Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5: Command not found: commitOperation:" unfortunately it does not say where this commit is not found.

I also have these messages with every start of Lightroom:
03.11.14 20:46:48,991 Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5: Cannot add package named WFCoreTests
Looked in /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WichitaFoundation.agtoolkit/Versions/A/Frameworks/WFCoreTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/WFCoreTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WFCoreTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WichitaFoundation.agtoolkit/Versions/A/Frameworks/WFCoreTests.agtoolkit, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/WFCoreTests.agtoolkit, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WFCoreTests.agtoolkit
!! Did you remember to add a copy frameworks step to your project?

03.11.14 20:46:49,030 Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5: Cannot add package named WFSQLiteTests
Looked in /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WichitaFoundation.agtoolkit/Versions/A/Frameworks/WFSQLiteTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/WFSQLiteTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WFSQLiteTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WichitaFoundation.agtoolkit/Versions/A/Frameworks/WFSQLiteTests.agtoolkit, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/WFSQLiteTests.agtoolkit, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WFSQLiteTests.agtoolkit
!! Did you remember to add a copy frameworks step to your project?

03.11.14 20:46:49,031 Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5: Cannot add package named WFWebTests
Looked in /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WichitaFoundation.agtoolkit/Versions/A/Frameworks/WFWebTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/WFWebTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WFWebTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WichitaFoundation.agtoolkit/Versions/A/Frameworks/WFWebTests.agtoolkit, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/WFWebTests.agtoolkit, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WFWebTests.agtoolkit
!! Did you remember to add a copy frameworks step to your project?

03.11.14 20:46:49,031 Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5: Cannot add package named WFOzClientTests
Looked in /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WichitaFoundation.agtoolkit/Versions/A/Frameworks/WFOzClientTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/WFOzClientTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WFOzClientTests.framework, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WichitaFoundation.agtoolkit/Versions/A/Frameworks/WFOzClientTests.agtoolkit, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/WFOzClientTests.agtoolkit, /Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/Frameworks/WFOzClientTests.agtoolkit
!! Did you remember to add a copy frameworks step to your project?

03.11.14 20:49:40,998 Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5: readTokenFromKeychain failed with status -25300 and error The specified item could not be found in the keychain.

I have no clue if that is in any way related. Next time I see the cropping error occur I will check the console if there is anything reported that might help.

Best regards

Wiebke

Hi Rikk.

The reproduction of this one really is tricky, as it seems the error occurs at point X when fixed with my little workaround it does not re-occur for a while sometimes a day sometimes longer. But I had some left that I hadn't re-fixed, they are uploaded to my website here http://www.lilleulven.com/LRTrouble/n... (this gallery is only accessible with this link) and I put some titles to them that should describe what happens when. Feel free to contact me if my descriptions are confusing or if you need more information.

Both my files and the catalogue I am using are stored on the same external hard drive. And I guess by now I can rule out that it has anything to do with file-writing permissions, as for me the problem for one photo can be fixed by just copying the settings right after cropping it.

You need to use my steps to fix the wrong behavior not to produce it 🙂 Wished I had found a way to force the system to go wrong, but it comes like lighting out of nowhere... and a couple of cropped photos and copied settings later it disappears as if it had not been there, before turning up again later (later has so far been earliest the next day for me).

I hope you'll be able to reproduce it and will update this post (or add a new one) if I can figure out how to "turn the wrong behavior on".

Thanks for your help.

Best regards

Wiebke

In the latest release what I observe is almost a "flashing" between edit sates, where all edits vanish and then reappear (including crop) randomly, almost as if the edits are saved but LR isn't consistently bringing up the edited preview and is instead building a new one from the original, unedited image. I'm not sure if this is the same behavior the above users are experiencing, but I thought I'd share the new experience and see what others say.

For refernce, I always create 1:1 previews on import in order to work on new image sets.

Greetings Rick and Wiebke,

I have been trying to reproduce this problem. Back in the 5.2 days, I could reproduce it but now, it is working as expected. I used your steps but I don't get any crop behavior that I don't expect. Can you post a screen shot of the crop and then the following image that has the "crop messed up"?

Did you try out the workaround that I described right above your post? (You might only have to Copy the Settings after clicking Done in the Crop-View) - Just trying to find out if that would work on later editions of MacOS too :)

Best regards

Wiebke

Problem still here, LR 5.6 on a MacPro 10.8.5.