Borderless Printing: Other answers have not helped

New Here ,
Oct 28, 2018 Oct 28, 2018

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I have read at least 5 answers on this forum, plus more from other sites. LR Classic was printing borderless, but after resetting my printer due to a network issue, now it won't, even with the exact same settings, which are pasted below. I have tried with Zoom to Fill both on and off. I get a border either way. It's not just shrinking the image to fit inside the border; the border cuts off the edges of the image. Per one answer from earlier this year (Printing issues with Lightroom ), I tried printing through Preview, but got a border. I have an HP 7858 that has printed borderless as recently as yesterday. I am running Mas OSX 10.14. I am able to borderless from my phone, so I believe the problem is with LR, not the printer.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 28, 2018 Oct 28, 2018

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One thought-

Do you have "Stroke" activated? This will give a 'border' even with all your settings given above (which look correct!).

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And if the Ratio of image WxH is different to the Paper Ratio WxH, then you must have [Zoom to Fill] turned on, otherwise you will get odd 'borders'.

And my other advice- Do not click on a Print template preset. This would over-ride and negate all your settings.

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.4.1 Photoshop 23.4.1, ACR 14.4.2, Lightroom 5.3, Lr-iOS 7.0.2, Bridge 12.0.2, Windows-10.

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New Here ,
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Thanks for replying.

Stroke border is off and the ratio in the corner says:

I don't even know what a print template preset is. How can I check to make sure I'm not inadvertently using one?

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Explorer ,
Oct 28, 2018 Oct 28, 2018

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I print a lot, different printers but I do a lot of large format printing and other things. So I have two ideas that may help.

First, Reseting a printer is a pain! If you had to go through and uninstall and reinstall then I would bet there is a setting somewhere in the print dialog box that is not set. If the photo is 6X4 as the screen shows, and the printer is capable of printing a 6X4 borderless which the specifications for your printer say it is... Then there is a box in the print dialog box causing it.

Second, I am assuming you've already ruled out my first suggestion, so I wonder is a borderless 6X4 possible from say photoshop? If you have a 6X4 canvas are you able to print it borderless? That will help us narrow down the issue.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 29, 2018 Oct 29, 2018

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Follow the suggestions from armsdan​. You look to have Lightroom set up correctly, so it will most likely be the printer driver.

I am not familiar with the printer or the Mac printer setup dialog.

I did a search for the printer manual and could only find a PDF for the HP 7800 Series, and this PDF made no mention of borderless that I could find, so have a careful read of your printer manual.

As to the "template" question-

There is a Template Browser panel on the left of screen. Adobe provide many templates (you can preview in the window above) but I think most are for 'Letter' sized papers. I suggest you leave the Adobe templates 'collapsed' in the 'Lightroom Templates' folder and only browse out of interest.

When you have successfully printed an image (in the way you want it) then you must create a template for that setup, which will appear in the 'User Templates' group.

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Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.4.1 Photoshop 23.4.1, ACR 14.4.2, Lightroom 5.3, Lr-iOS 7.0.2, Bridge 12.0.2, Windows-10.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
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Have you tried selecting a different printer altogether to clear the settings? If not, choose any other printer, change the page settings and the printer settings by selecting different sizes and borders etc. and then go back to your HP, set it for borderless and try again.

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New Here ,
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Well, I exported a photo to jpg and printed from Preview and still got a border, so the problem is clearly either with the printer or the OS. I very much appreciate everyone's help. Hopefully, I will get some help from HP.

Also, don't buy this printer. I can't speak for all HP printers, but this is definitely not one of my better purchases.

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Explorer ,
Jan 28, 2019 Jan 28, 2019

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I have this exact same problem with. HP 7520.  Worked fine printing borderless for 8 months.  Then about 2 weeks ago started putting a 1mm white edge on the trailing edge of all 5x7 print.  I went through the process of deleting all the HP apps and driver then reinstalled.  Now it prints a white border all the way around.  I made it worse instead of better.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 28, 2019 Jan 28, 2019

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I now see something similar with my Epson Printer! A slim white margin on two edges!

Re-installing the printer may have reset the Lightroom templates for your printing.

Re-check everything-

'Printer'-Paper Size, Borderless, 'Image Settings'- Zoom to Fill, 'Layout'- Margins all at '0', Cell Size at Maximum.

With the same problem I cannot suggest a correct answer.

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.4.1 Photoshop 23.4.1, ACR 14.4.2, Lightroom 5.3, Lr-iOS 7.0.2, Bridge 12.0.2, Windows-10.

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Explorer ,
Jan 29, 2019 Jan 29, 2019

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Have you got a Mac or a Windows machine? Mine is a Windows application and

I'm about to decide that the issue occurred about the time of my last

Windows update. I've got all the settings in LR triple checked. So, I

know they are as they should be. However, depending on where I check the

settings in my print driver, ie from HP App, from Control Panel, inside

other print applications, I find each to have different settings. I'm

thinking that somewhere in all those different settings there is a master

setting that's driving the borderless vs bordered printing and that in fact

the application settings themselves are being ignored. Now I just have to

figure how to get them to sync up or at least acknowledge the setting set

in LR.

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New Here ,
Dec 04, 2021 Dec 04, 2021

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There is, obviously a problem with LR Classic printing module but Adobe dosn't lift a finger to sort it out. It is now late 2021 and I can see posts going back many years. I have the same problem with my Canon Pro 1000 as the guys with their epsoms  HPs and other printers. Some people suggest playing with templates but if you're printing with specific ICC paper profile then that's another waste of time. If print using "Canon Professional Print & Layout" pluging then get an edge to edge print but that pluging is very limitted in it's scope and not very user frieldly (not that I am saying LR is!). So until Adobe listen to their customers and do something in between collecting subscription money, the only solution is to use a pluging (if it is availabe for your printrer)!

 

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New Here ,
Dec 04, 2021 Dec 04, 2021

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I wonder if there is a way to edit your post in here or you have to reply to yourself?!
In absence of that knowledge and solution, I am replying to myself!
I think there is a misunderstanding in here and that is, some people think the issue is how to set the print parameters right in order to get borderless print come out borderless! Problem with LR is that even if you assign a black background it still leaves the white paper showing, 2 milimeter at the bottom and 1.5 at the righthand side and that has nothing to do with anything else. I am beginning to think that there is a mismatch in Lightroom program between Imperial dimensions (inches) and metric counterparts (millimetres). They probably didn't allow enough digits in their conversion table. In short paper sizes in LR are wrong! 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
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Just a wild guess; also check your paper.  Is it exactly 5x7 and not perhaps 5x7.04.

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Explorer ,
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Measured the paper as well. Plus it was printing borderless on that paper

previously.

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 04, 2021 Dec 04, 2021

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You may have found this already but I remember a past post somewhere you need to be able to select BORDERLESS in the PAGE SETUP of PRINT. Here's an example https://photographybay.com/2015/10/04/7-steps-to-borderless-printing-in-lightroom/.

 

For my Epson XP-15000, there is no BORDERLESS option for paper. I have to select a paper that will support borderless then select BODERLESS in the XP-15000 setup.

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Setting borderless printing is fairly basic and I don't  think it is OS specific. It is controlled by Lightroom. Normally in print module if you select printer then in one of the sub menues (combo box in the middle in case of Mac) you should find "paper handling" that lists all the available sizes. Each size should appear twice, the second has borderless word following. (I hope I understood your post right!).

Problem with LR is that even if you asign a black background it still leaves white paper showing, 2 milimeter at the bottom and 1.5 at the righthand side.

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 04, 2021 Dec 04, 2021

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"Setting borderless printing is fairly basic and I don't think it is OS specific. It is controlled by Lightroom. " I would suggest from what I've found with my printer and the link, borderless is controlled by the printer which is why you need to ensure it is set in the Printer Properties through PAGE SETUP and/or PRINTER SETUP.

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 05, 2021 Dec 05, 2021

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I should clarify that it's handled by the printer even if LR is manging color.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Dec 05, 2021 Dec 05, 2021

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Agree with DS256 as far as I know the printer driver controls borderless printing.

Also ensure there is no print job stuck in the print que.

 

Regards, Denis: iMac mid-2015, 5K 27”, GPU 2GB, Ram 24GB, HDD 3TB, macOS 11.6.8,; LrC 11.4.1, Lr 5.4.1, Ps 23.3.2-ACR 14.4,; Camera OM-D E-M1.

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