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Keyboard shortcut for Previous Keyword Set doesn't work on US numeric keypad

LEGEND ,
Oct 28, 2023 Oct 28, 2023

The Previous Keyword Set command is assigned to Opt/Alt Shift 0, which works if you type 0 on the main keyboard but not on the numeric keypad.

 

Tested on LR 13.0.1 / Mac OS 13.5.1 and Windows 11 / LR in English / Physical US English Keyboard and on-screen keyboards in Mac and Windows.

 

1. In Library, select a photo.

 

2. In the Keywording panel, make sure at least three keyword sets are defined.

 

3. Type Opt/Alt 0 on the main keyboard and then on the numeric keypad, and observe the next keyword set is correctly selected in both cases.

 

4. Type Opt/Alt Shift 0 on the main keyboard and observe the previous keyword set is correctly selected.

 

5. Type Opt/Alt Shift 0 on the numeric keypad and observe that on Mac, the next keyword set is selected and on Windows the keyword set doesn't change, both incorrect behaviors.

 

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To open the Mac keyboard viewer:

 

a. In System Settings, search for "Show input menu in menu bar" and then set that option.

 

b. In the menu bar, click US and then Show Keyboard Viewer:

johnrellis_0-1698523795141.png

 

c. If you don't see the numeric keypad, do ... > Custom Panels > Keyboard - ANSI (Large):

johnrellis_1-1698523917679.png

 

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To open the Windows keyboard viewer:

 

a. In the Windows search box, search for "on screen keyboard" and run the On-Screen Keyboard app.

 

b. If you don't see numeric keypad, click the options key:

johnrellis_2-1698524133727.png

 

and check Turn On Numeric Key Pad.

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 28, 2023 Oct 28, 2023

Hello,

Recently I noticed that Option + Shift + 0 keyboard shortcut for Cycling backward through keyword sets is not working properly. Instead of going to the previous set, it goes to the nex, just like  Option + 0. I tried to add a keyboard shortcut using the App Shortcuts menu, but it's still not working. I can't find this option in the LR menu, so maybe that's why I can't change it.

 

Anyone have any ideas on how I could solve this?

 

Thanks
Gabi R.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 28, 2023 Oct 28, 2023

Hmm, Opt Shift 0 is working in my LR 13.0.1 / Mac OS 13.5.1.  To narrow down what might be going wrong:

 

1. Click the Keyword Set dropdown menu in the Keywording panel. How many keyword sets are displayed?

 

2. Do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 28, 2023 Oct 28, 2023
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Hmm, Opt Shift 0 is working in my LR 13.0.1 / Mac OS 13.5.1.  To narrow down what might be going wrong:

 

1. Click the Keyword Set dropdown menu in the Keywording panel. How many keyword sets are displayed?

 

2. Do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.


By @johnrellis

 

Hi, John.
Thanks for your reply!

 

System info:

Lightroom Classic version: 13.0.1 [ 202310121438-d2af310c ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-RO
Operating system: Mac OS 14
Version: 14.0.0 [23A344]
Application architecture: arm64
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: NA
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Built-in memory: 16.384,0 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16.384,0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 1.309,1 MB (7,9%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 416.903,6 MB
Memory cache size: 1.121,2MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.0 [ 1677 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 843MB / 8191MB (10%)
Camera Raw real memory: 842MB / 16384MB (5%)
Standard Preview Size: 2880 pixels
Displays: 1) 2560x1440

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: Apple M1
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: Auto

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Volumes/Data/Lightroom/RGV-Photography/RGV-Photography-v13.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/myuser/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in
3) DxO PureRAW 2
4) DxO PureRAW 2 Importer
5) DxO PureRAW 3
6) DxO PureRAW 3 Importer
7) Flickr
8) HDR Efex Pro 2
9) Nikon Tether Plugin
10) ON1 NoNoise AI 2022
11) Plugin Parameters
12) Topaz Photo AI

Config.lua flags: None

 

In the attached image you can see some of the keyword sets (sorry but the names are in Romanian).

When I press Opt Shift 0, it should select the "Barză neagră" keyword set, instead "Becațină comună" set is selected. 

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LEGEND ,
Oct 28, 2023 Oct 28, 2023

"Language setting: en-RO"

 

It looks like you're running LR in English but are located in Romania?

 

In System Settings, please search for "region" and post a screenshot like this, including Preferred Languages and Region:

johnrellis_0-1698517632054.png

 

Then search for "keyboard louts" and post a screenshot:

johnrellis_1-1698518385814.png

 

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Oct 28, 2023 Oct 28, 2023

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This doesn't work because you need to use the exact name of the menu item as it appears in LR's menus (not the help).  Here it's a little tricky because the menu item doesn't appear in LR unless you hold down Shift and then click the Metadata > Keyword Set menu:

johnrellis_1-1698516562483.png

 

Using "Previous Keyword Set", I'm able to use System Settings to successfully change the shortcut for Previous Keyword Set to Cmd Y:

 

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 28, 2023 Oct 28, 2023

Thank you so much John. That did the job 🙂

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 28, 2023 Oct 28, 2023

Also, I 'm using an external keyboard with numpad and was using the 0 key on the numpad because it's easier for me. And this didn't work even after I fixed the menu title. It seams like the 0 key on the numpad is not the same with the "normal" 0. 
I just realized that 🙂 and I thought it's worth mentioning it for others who might have this problem.

Anyway, I added new shortcuts for prev/next keyword set and it works just fine now.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 28, 2023 Oct 28, 2023

I asked about your region and keyboard settings because there are other LR bugs that only occur with some (e.g. French AZERTY keyboards).


But I was able to reproduce the symptoms with a US English keyboard's numeric keypad and just filed a bug report, thanks.

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Also, I 'm using an external keyboard with numpad and was using the 0 key on the numpad because it's easier for me. And this didn't work even after I fixed the menu title. It seams like the 0 key on the numpad is not the same with the "normal" 0. 
I just realized that 🙂 and I thought it's worth mentioning...

By @rugavy

 

Yes, that’s definitely worth mentioning. There are many applications, including several by Adobe, that distinguish between the “same” key on the main keyboard and number pad for text entry, shortcuts, or both.

 

A big one is the Return/Enter key. For example, applications that treat the two key groups separately might use the Return/Enter key on the keyboard to enter a carriage return or line break in the current field, and use the Return/Enter key on the number pad to enter an Apply or OK for the current field.

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