Lightroom CC2018 vs Lightroom/Photoshop

[magnusk29960746]

Hallo
I receive no message from sales support! What is the difference between Lightroom CC2018 and Lightroom/Photoshop. 
Is this the same software?
Thanks for answering:-)
Magnus

[JohanElzenga]

There is no Lightroom CC2018. There is Lightroom (a relatively new application that stores images in the cloud) and Lightroom Classic (the latest version of the Lightroom that has been around for more than ten years). And then there is Photoshop, which is an entirely different application.

[magnusk29960746]

Does Lightroom work properly together with Photoshop?

In this case I have to buy/download the Lightroom Classic Version…

Thanks for answering!

Magnus

[JohanElzenga]

Yes, Lightroom Classic and Photoshop can work together very well. You can send an image from Lightroom Classic to Photoshop, make edits and then (a copy of) the image comes back in the Lightroom classic catalog.

[magnusk29960746]

Thank's:-) But why is there a version like CC2018? Still in the internet...

Magnus

[JohanElzenga]

Adobe used to add the letters 'CC' to all the Creative cloud products. It dropped that recently. So if you see 'Lightroom CC2018' then that is the old version of the current app called Lightroom.

[magnusk29960746]

But I learned:

Lightroom (standalone) comes together with Photoshop (this version works also with mobile devices...)

Lightroom Classic (with/without Photoshop?) is the PC/Mac App (but not for mobile devices...)

CC stands for Creative Cloud. But which version enables cloud storridge (both or only one?)

Sorry, but very confusing for me:-(

Magnus

[Just Shoot Me · Accepted solution]

You have it all messed up.

There is the Photography subscription plan. that comes with Lightroom CLASSIC, Version 9 as the newest version, and Photoshop and includes 20GBs of Adobe Cloud storage space.

Also you can install the Mobile version of Lightroom for Apple iOS and Google Android on your Mobile devices, Phones and Pads.

Then there is the Lightroom subscription that comes with ONLY Lightroom Cloud Centric for Desktop type computers and LR Mobile for phones and pads and you get 1TB of Adobe cloud storage space.

With the Photography plan you can also install Lightroom Cloud Centric on your computer but you still only get 20GBs of cloud storage and It is NOT suggested to do that.

https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/compare-plans.html?promoid=9DJJ4N49&mv=other

[magnusk29960746]

Thanks, the website makes it more clear! What would you recommend for a "normal" user?

[Just Shoot Me]

Normal in what way?

Do you take a lot of pictures with your phone? Do you then like to look at those pictures on your pad and your computer?

Or do you use a Real Camera and then edit them on your computer, print them or post some on websites.

[Abambo]

There are 3 Plans for "Lightroom" with different features:

• The Photography plan (20Gb)  includes Lightroom Classic, Photoshop and (the here useless) Lightroom. Lightroom is useless because on the limited 20G cloud space.
• The Photography plan (with one Tb cloud space) -- the same as above but with 1Tb cloud space.
• The Lightroom plan without Lightroom Classic and without Photoshop, but a Tb of cloud space. 

All the plans come with different apps for mobile devices.

So all is depending on if you intent to use cloud space, because you are working on the run or if you need Photoshop together with your plan.

[magnusk29960746]

If I am at a Lightroom course it might be a bit impractical if I have to work in the cloud. However, I can also edit the files offline?
Would you recommend the cloud-solution anyway?

[Just Shoot Me]

Personally I don't recommend the Cloud system but I'm old and don't like all my data on someone else's systems.

So to your question about the Cloud, NO.

[Abambo]

Hi,

I have several arguments against the cloud and several for the cloud:

against:
- a lot of cloud services get closed after a while obligating the users to download their data before the data gets deleted.
- you upload your data “somewhere” and that may not be compatible with privacy protection.
- you will need a lot of storage. I currently have around 3Tb of picture data.

for:
- the backup is handled by someone else.
- you may access the data from every where.
- you may use some server side tools with higher processing power.

I’m like JustShootMe: old-school local storage fan for this kind of data. But still, I use the cloud to share my pictures with other people. My back-up system is self organized. I’m using a NAS for that with a lot of RAID storage.

Regards,
Abambo

[magnusk29960746]

THX's: but you can only work with the cloud together with the mobile apps?

Regards,

Magnus

[Abambo]

Yes, but the mobile apps also work together with Lr Classic. And there the 20Gb of space is enough...

[Rob_Cullen · Accepted solution]

Two links- to help you decide:

https://lightroom.adobelanding.com/which-lightroom-is-right-for-you/

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/lightroom-cc-vs-classic-features/

[magnusk29960746]

Great. That helps!:-) For the 1st link: I am looking also for something simular like Premiere Pro and Premiere Elements 2020. I cannot find such a page by Adobe...

Magnus

[Just Shoot Me]

That is because the name convention is different (Lightroom was Lightroom until Lightroom Cloud Centric came along and Lightroom CC "WAS" Traditional LR version until people started calling the Cloud Centric version LR CC).

Talk about confusing, my god. Even with a Score card it is hard to understand which is which.

There is Premiere Pro, professional software, and Premiere Elements for the casual users. 

And the Elements versions are the only Adobe programs that is not tied to a subscription plan in some way.