Lightroom Classic 13.X very slow on M1 Pro and Sonoma 14.5

[riccimar]

I am running LRC 13.3.1 but all the 13.X version are really slow to export (3-4X slower) compared to 12.X on the same pics/system/setting. i am running a Macbook pro M1 Pro, on Sonoma 14.5

any solution?  actually fujifilm X-H2 Raf to jpg take around 3 seconds, while before was less than 1 second to export, and thats really problematic when exporting a studio session with 600/1000 pics....

going back to 12.X is not an option since i have updated the main catalog and already used AI Erase on several photos.

thanks

[riccimar]

here my sistem info

Lightroom Classic version: 13.3.1 [ 202405311538-6d7c0308 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-US
Operating system: Mac OS 14
Version: 14.5.0 [23F79]
Application architecture: arm64
Logical processor count: 10
Processor speed: NA
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Power Source: Battery, 100%
Built-in memory: 16 384,0 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 352,9MB / 10 922,6MB (3%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16 384,0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 1 682,2 MB (10,2%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 412 439,2 MB
Memory cache size: 286,8MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.3.1 [ 1889 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 339MB / 8191MB (4%)
Camera Raw real memory: 340MB / 16384MB (2%)

Cache1:
Final1- RAM:318,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, DSCF6261.RAF
NT- RAM:318,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, Combined:318,0MB

Cache2:
m:286,8MB, n:317,5MB

U-main: 133,0MB

Standard Preview Size: 1024 pixels
Displays: 1) 3456x2234

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: Apple M1 Pro
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: GPU for Export enabled

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Users/marco/Pictures/Lightroom/Lightroom Catalog-v13-3.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/marco/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in
3) DxO PureRAW 3
4) DxO PureRAW 3 Importer
5) Flickr
6) FUJIFILM Tether Plugin PRO
7) LR/TreeExporter
8) Nikon Tether Plugin

Config.lua flags:

[Ian Lyons]

I replied to your earlier post with a request that you post a copy of Systerm Info. The information contained in same is often very helpful when trying to diagnose possible reasons for LrC issues. Again, I ask you to post your System Info.

In the meantime, check that your GPU is providing full acceleration. This is easy to check in the LrC Peformance tab. I've attached a copy of mine showing what you should be seeing (ignore the computer type). If it doesn't show 'Your system automatically supports full acceleration' or 'Full graphics acceleration is enabled', then it may be that the GPU has failed the self test at some point and needs to be reset. If the self test has failed or you've selected teh wrong option, then this may explain why your exports are taking longer than they did in LrC 12.x

[Ian Lyons]

We've cross posted.

You System Info indicates that the GPU setting has been configured correctly, but it would still be helpful to know whether you're getting full acceleration as I described above.

[riccimar]

Sure, full Graphics Acceleratin is enabled. i even tried both, Auto setting and Custom setting enabling all, with "Use GPU for export"

so you tested 12.X and 13.X and you are getting same or similar export speed?

[Ian Lyons]

I hadn't tested it since 13.0 was released, but don't recall it being much different to LrC 12.X. 

Above being said, I compared the two versions this morning. Using a Mac Studio M1 Ultra with 64GB of memory I exported 1000 Canon EOS R5 images as follows.

LrC 12.5.1

Unedited JPEG at Full Size, 70% Quality, Standard Sharpening = 3 minutes 30 seconds 

Edited JPEG (Basic Panel edits) at Full Size, 70% Quality, Standard Sharpening = 8 minutes 10 seconds 

LrC 13.3.1

Unedited JPEG at Full Size, 70% Quality, Standard Sharpening = 3 minutes 25 seconds 

Edited JPEG (Basic Panel edits) at Full Size, 70% Quality, Standard Sharpening = 5 minutes 30 seconds 

Times are average of 3 test runs.

[riccimar]

Good to knows, thanks. Under Sonoma? Just as reference with m1 pro, 16GB, 600 fuji xh2 raf, unedited, took around 30minutes in 13.3.1, before with 12.x was a few minutes task.

[Ian Lyons]

Yes, Sonoma 13.5. My System Info is shown below:

Lightroom Classic version: 13.3.1 [ 202405311538-6d7c0308 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-GB
Operating system: Mac OS 14
Version: 14.5.0 [23F79]
Application architecture: arm64
Logical processor count: 20
Processor speed: NA
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Built-in memory: 65,536.0 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 143.4MB / 49,152.0MB (0%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 65,536.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 1,483.3 MB (2.2%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 406,971.2 MB
Memory cache size: 538.3MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.3.1 [ 1889 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 374MB / 32767MB (1%)
Camera Raw real memory: 375MB / 65536MB (0%)

Cache1:
Final1- RAM:352.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, LR_231002_0001.DNG
NT- RAM:352.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, Combined:352.0MB

Cache2:
m:538.3MB, n:352.3MB

U-main: 90.0MB

Standard Preview Size: 2560 pixels
Displays: 1) 2560x1440

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: Apple M1 Ultra
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: Auto

[riccimar]

Well, i can only wait and hope for updates. Sonoma is a fresh install, I already tried to uninstall and install LRC, but still the same . May a problem with raf or something else. I will try to convert some R5 raw and see i have the same problem.

[riccimar]

i made few more testing, while LRC works well , with no lag or oddities in all the modules, the problem is really linked to export.

something weird it's happening here. i exported 10 R5 raw (everything in the internal SSD, photos files and library, so really fast)

exporting time for  10 unedited R5 raw  take this times

TIFF 8bit uncompressed  10s

TIFF 8bit ZIP compressed 28s

JPG 17s

DNG Lossy 22s

PNG 2min 45s

Original 1s

[riccimar]

GPU for Export ON

TIFF 8bit uncompressed  10s

TIFF 8bit ZIP compressed 28s

JPG 17s

DNG Lossy 22s

PNG 2min45s

Original 1s

GPU for Export OFF

TIFF 8bit uncompressed 20s

TIFF 8bit ZIP compressed 31s

JPG 17s

PNG 2min44s

DNG Lossy 31”

Original 1s

GPU AUTO

TIFF 8bit uncompressed 9”

TIFF 8bit ZIP compressed 24”

JPG 12s

PNG 2min45s

DNG Lossy 22s

Original 1s

[Ian Lyons]

That doesn't look right. Are you absolutely sure that the text beow your computer model is as highlighted in below screenshots?

or

 

[riccimar]

yes

[yamato7]

Have you tried resetting your preferences?
Reinstalling the app will not reset your preferences, that has to be handled separately.

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/reset-preferences.html

[riccimar]

Yes, i tried, and didn't solve.

export times are not constant, but to export 10 untouched X-H2 RAF take 15s, to export 10 canon R5 RAW take a little less, around 13s, but  both are quite slow.

[Paul26878110874f]

I did it. I updated all my drivers, created new catalog, did many things.... 13.3.1 is really slow, interface is slow, switching between photos is slow, my CPU is much more load than with prev. versions... Why Adobe ignore our problem ?  

[felipeboca]

Same problem here, to the point of being an impediment for me to work with the app....