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LR Classic 14.1.1 crashes after a few minutes every time

Community Beginner ,
Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

I am on a Windows 11 (Version 10.0.22631 Build 22631) Desktop PC (high spec: Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor, 3701 Mhz, 12 Core(s), 24 Logical Processor(s)). The same catalog opens and works fine on my laptop with the same version of LR Classic and Windows 11 (I backed it up from there and used that version to open on the Desktop but same problem. 

 

This all started yesterday after everything had previously been working fine since the last update in December.

 

The cloud based LR works OK on my desktop PC. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling LR Classic but no difference. I have re-booted my PC multiple times. LR Classic just closes, rather than throwing up the option to send in a crash report.

 

Although I was last working on a particular folder of images in Library, whenever I open Lightroom, it starts in a different folder and in the develop module.

 

Any suggestions?

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LEGEND , Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

And if installing the latest graphics driver doesn't help, try using the Creative Cloud Cleaner Tool to uninstall all Creative Cloud apps completely and reinstall LR. 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

Have you tried resetting the LrC preference file? If not, then please try it. The procedure is set out in Method 1 at below linked Adobe Help document.

 

You should also check to see whether there is file ending 'lrcat.lock'. If you find such a file, then delete it and try restarting LrC again.

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/reset-preferences.html

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LEGEND ,
Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

If those suggestions don't help, please do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

Thanks. Deleting preferences didn't help. System Info here:

 

Lightroom Classic version: 14.1.1 [ 202412150940-551fb044 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en
Operating system: Windows 11 - Home Premium Edition
Version: 11.0.22631
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 24
Processor speed: 3.7GHz
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
CPU Utilisation: 1.0%
Power Source: Plugged In
Built-in memory: 65443.7 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 137.2MB / 12115.0MB (1%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 65443.7 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 1476.6 MB (2.2%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 1715.1 MB
GDI objects count: 760
USER objects count: 2266
Process handles count: 3215
Memory cache size: 72.8MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 17.1 [ 2098 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 39MB / 32721MB (0%)
Camera Raw real memory: 41MB / 65443MB (0%)

Cache1:
NT- RAM:0.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, Combined:0.0MB

Cache2:
m:72.8MB, n:0.0MB

U-main: 130.0MB

System DPI setting: 120 DPI
Desktop composition enabled: Yes
Standard Preview Size: 1440 pixels
Displays: 1) 2560x1440
Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No

Graphics Processor Info:
DirectX: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (32.0.15.6094)
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: Auto
Enable HDR in Library: OFF

Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: D:\OneDrive\My Pictures\Lightroom\Lightroom Catalog v12-v13-3.lrcat
Settings Folder: C:\Users\david\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Flickr
3) HDR Efex Pro 2
4) Qimage One
5) Topaz Photo AI

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Device : 2503
Subsystem : 461719da
Revision : a1
Video Memory : 12115
Adapter #2: Vendor : 1414
Device : 8c
Subsystem : 0
Revision : 0
Video Memory : 0
AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024
AudioDeviceName: System Default - Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2
AudioDeviceSampleRate: 48000
Build: Uninitialized
Direct2DEnabled: false
GL_ACCUM_ALPHA_BITS: 16
GL_ACCUM_BLUE_BITS: 16
GL_ACCUM_GREEN_BITS: 16
GL_ACCUM_RED_BITS: 16
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GL_MAX_3D_TEXTURE_SIZE: 16384
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 32768
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 4
GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 32768,32768
GL_RED_BITS: 8
GL_RENDERER: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2
GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.60 NVIDIA
GL_STENCIL_BITS: 8
GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
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LEGEND ,
Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

"DirectX: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (32.0.15.6094)"

 

That graphics driver (560.94) is a five-month-old Game Ready driver. Install the latest Studio driver (recommended by Nvidia and Adobe) from here:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/237785/ 

 

It may not be the cause of your issues, but having the right up-to-date driver is always a good first step.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

After deleting preferences I am now getting this window appear after a minute or two. When I click the  to close it Lightroom closes. 

 

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LEGEND ,
Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

And if installing the latest graphics driver doesn't help, try using the Creative Cloud Cleaner Tool to uninstall all Creative Cloud apps completely and reinstall LR. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

I tried another reinstall, this time without preferences. When it restarted it said it couldn't find lrcat.data. I said "continue" and it said it needed to upgrade the catalog for the new version. It then launched with what looked like a very old catalog, but couldn't locate images as it was looking on the wrong drive (but it did seem to be stable). I tried "open catalog" and used the current one and it opened fine, but then crashed (this time with and error message). The crash report is as follows. I don't understand any of that but the key bit seems to be "<crash exception="EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION" exceptionCode="0xc0000005" instruction="0x0000000020C0FA7A">"?

 

When I closed the crash message it ran a system diagnostic which said no issues found:

 

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LEGEND ,
Jan 13, 2025 Jan 13, 2025

"I tried another reinstall, this time without preferences."

 

Was that after using the Cleaner Tool?  


Also, the stack trace still shows the older graphics driver.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 14, 2025 Jan 14, 2025

Wow! Thanks for all your help. I installed the graphics driver update, which didn't help with the lightroom problem. I then ran the Creative Cloud Cleaner Tool and removed Lightroom Classic that way. Wierdly once reinstalled it opened with a very old cataog. I reopened it with the latest catalog and (touch wood, fingers crossed) it seems to be working. The only odd thing is that the desktop shortcut is blank, rather than showing the LRC graphic, but I can live with that!

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 14, 2025 Jan 14, 2025

Logos reappeared after a restart of the computer.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 14, 2025 Jan 14, 2025

You can delete the blank shortcut, then make a new one.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 27, 2025 Jan 27, 2025

This sounds like what I've got.  I've been running 14.1.1 just fine for weeks, and haven't recently updated anything.   A day or two ago, I started experiencing periodic failures, with no apparent pattern. Sometimes I was prompted to submit a report, sometimes not.   Then the crashes came closer and closer together, and at this point, it takes LrC about 30 seconds to fall over.  It doesn't matter what module I'm in--it fails equally fast in Library, Develop, and Print.  I'm not doing anything but starting it up.

 

I turned off sync--that didn't help.  The Lenovo tool reports that all my drivers are up to date, but I didn't check directly with NVIDIA.

I'm thinking I'll try a reinstall, and if that doesn't work, then try the cleaner tool.  

 

 

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License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en
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Version: 11.0.26100
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 32
Processor speed: 1.9GHz
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
CPU Utilisation: 1.0%
Power Source: Plugged In
Built-in memory: 32402.4 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 74.5MB / 8030.0MB (0%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 32402.4 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 1687.0 MB (5.2%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 1764.5 MB
GDI objects count: 893
USER objects count: 3827
Process handles count: 2889
Memory cache size: 142.9MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 17.1 [ 2098 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 57MB / 16201MB (0%)
Camera Raw real memory: 61MB / 32402MB (0%)
 
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U-main: 132.0MB
 
System DPI setting: 144 DPI (high DPI mode)
Desktop composition enabled: Yes
Standard Preview Size: 3840 pixels
Displays: 1) 3840x2160
Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No
 
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Init State: GPU for Display supported by default with image processing and export supported in the custom mode
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Enable HDR in Library: ON
 
Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic
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Community Beginner ,
Jan 27, 2025 Jan 27, 2025

Just after sharing the post above, I restarted LrC, and it ran for 5 minutes without crashing.

So I went into the print module to try to print an image, and discovered my Color Management Profiles were missing, leaving it in 'Managed By Printer', which I rarely use.  I opened up the dialog, and added a set of Epson profiles for the paper I have, and printed the photo without crashing.   I went back to the Grid view and rapidly flipped around between the 31 images in the collection I'm using, which had caused it to crash this afternoon.   It worked fine.  Now I've gone to All Photographs (376,000), and I'm spinning the mouse wheel, bringing up images that aren't in the cache--that heated up the PC and the fan came on, but I still haven't been replicate the crash. Now I'm trying Denoise (maxes out the Nvidia card). That works, too.  I turned sync back on.  

Its been up for 15 mins now, with no apparent probs.  Other than the set of active printer profiles, I can't find anything else that is missing  This is a weird failure mode.`

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LEGEND ,
Jan 27, 2025 Jan 27, 2025

"DirectX: NVIDIA T1000 8GB (31.0.15.3799)"

"The Lenovo tool reports that all my drivers are up to date"

 

That driver is 14 months old. The computer manufacturers' update utilities and Windows Update often don't show you the latest graphics driver.  You can install the latest one from here:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/238728/

 

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Jan 27, 2025 Jan 27, 2025

"Adapter #2: Vendor : 8086"

 

You also have an integrated Intel graphics processor. Adobe recommends disabling a second GPU -- see steps 5-6:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html#solution-4

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 31, 2025 Jan 31, 2025
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It became unstable again after the Jan 27 post above, but since updating the driver for my discrete GPU, stability has been pretty good.   It hasn't crashed for several days.  Sync was glitchy for 36 hours, but it seems to be working correctly, now, too.     

I'll experiment with turning off the onboard GPU like you suggest.

After 19 years, I've learned not to jump to conclusions about LrC behavior, but so far, it seems like a pretty clear connection between the driver update and software stability.    Thank you!

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