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P: Colored "pixel" artifacts/subdued blacks in shadow areas (older Macs) (also visible on CR)

Explorer ,
Jun 14, 2023 Jun 14, 2023

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I updated LrC to 12.4 yesyerday. Since then a number of pixels in multiple colors appear appear quite often on the image, mostly in the areas of blacks/darks and when using Tone Curve commands. It's similar to the red/blue pixels which denoted clipping in the areas of blacks/whites, but they appear in very many different other colors. Sometimes they disappear, or decrease, after actioning the commands again, sometimes they do not. Is anybody else facing the same problem which I encounter now for the vey first time after many years of use of LrC? Thank you in advance for your advise.

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Adobe Employee , Oct 02, 2023 Oct 02, 2023

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We can still not replicate this failure on test or production machines at Adobe. This appears to occur on Lightroom 12.4/Camera Raw 15.4 and later on very old Macs (8 Years and older) and is likely due to out-of-date video drivers on no longer-supported or updated GPUs.

The issue manifests as visual color artifacts in the Develop view only but doesn't always appear on exported images. It can also manifest as less-than-black deep shadow areas.

  • Some customers report that disabling GPU rest
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New Here ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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Hello. Perhaps someone can help me, because after contacting support twice, no one solved this problem and I am disappointed in the Lightroom support service. Multicolors appear in the shadows during processing and there is no way to turn them off. But the worst thing is that Lightroom exports it to JPG with the same effect. You have to exit the program and log in again.

my system is MAC Monterey 12.6.7
I uninstalled and reinstalled the program, reset the settings and deleted the com.adobe.LightroomClassicCC7.plist file.

everything continues as before.

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Mentor ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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Have you tried ti disable the GPU in preferences?

 

Take a look at this thread dealing with a similar issue.

 

Ken Seals - Nikon Z 9, Z 8, 14mm-800mm. Computer Win 11 Pro, I7-14700K, 64GB, RTX3070TI. Travel machine: 2021 MacBook Pro M1 MAX 64GB. All Adobe apps.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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I have a problem with Lr-v13.Ircat because the exported .jpg files after the update are corrupted, there are halos of various colors

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LEGEND ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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Is your problem the same as in the link below?

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-artifacts-resembling-clipping-warnings-odd-bright-colored-pixels-in-shadow-areas-older-macs/idc-p/14209334/page/5#M48735 

 

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Explorer ,
Nov 05, 2023 Nov 05, 2023

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If it's any consolation, they're actively working on it. After I responded on the forum to a post by Rick F. asking for people willing to interact with Adobe techs, I was contacted and last week I spent an hour on a videoconference with 2 techs and demonstrated the problem to them. At their request, I continue sending them logs when it happens again, as it did the day after I spoke with them. I share your frustration at having this wrench thrown into the Develop workflow, but I believe they are sincerely trying to figure it out.

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New Here ,
Nov 05, 2023 Nov 05, 2023

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Hi,
I am using lightroom with a 2015 macbook pro 15". I keep it up to date. I am having a weird issue where there is shadow clipping in all my photos. I pressed J and toggled it on and off and it is always there. The clipping is even showing up in my exported photos. I cannot figure this out. Has anyone had this issue before? I attatched a photo that has been exported with normal presets that has the clipping in the shadow

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

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Here we have all the same problem

Return on Lightroom 12 

 

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Explorer ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

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For a while, I've intermittently had lots of noise showing up in the image. I thought it was shadows/highlight clipping (different colours showing different colour channels), but I then turned them off (or thought I did) and they still showed up (see image below).

Screenshot 2023-08-07 at 11.53.22.png

 

This developed a bit more today - I had the clipping/noise, but for the first time it has continued to the export and I had this horrible noise all over the shadows in the image. (see image below).

Screenshot 2023-11-06 at 10.08.08.png

 

Is this a feature/bug? Does anyone know a fix?

 

Thanks,

Matt

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LEGEND ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

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Lots of reports about this on older Macs (e.g. 8 years old) with graphics processors whose drivers are no longer supported by the manufacturer, and Adobe is actively investigating.  Please do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.

 

Click the Apple icon in the upper-left corner and do About This Mac. Post a full-resolution screenshot (not a phone pic) of the About window.
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/help/createscreenshot/

 

Many have reported that setting Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor to Off helps, as does rolling back to LR 12.3. 

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

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Thanks JohnRellis,

 

Many have reported that setting Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor to Off helps. This helps! Can't go back to LR12.3 because the library with a huge project is made in a newer version and is not accepted. Work around till problem solved. Hope it stays like this.

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Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

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Hello. Just for info disabling GPU does not seem to work when exporting. I have some users with GPU disable that have this problem when exporting. I have just tested in 13.0.1. Even if you disable the GPU, the GPU seem to be used when exporting. 

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Sheepdog trying to help Lightroom and Photoshop beginners

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

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@ouiouiphoto en effet ça ne change absolument rien !!

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

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return to Lightroom v12

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Explorer ,
Nov 07, 2023 Nov 07, 2023

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Hi @John R Ellis thanks for the reply and merge. You're right, I have a very old Mac Pro at work - details below copied from LR system info. I've turned off graphics processor and restarted LR which has currently fixed the exports. WOOHOO, thanks again John for the current fix.

 

Lightroom Classic version: 13.0.1 [ 202310121438-d2af310c ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-GB
Operating system: Mac OS 12
Version: 12.6.5 [21G531]
Application architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 3.7GHz
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Built-in memory: 12,288.0 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 12,288.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 507.4 MB (4.1%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 42,025.0 MB
Memory cache size: 965.0MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.0 [ 1677 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX
Camera Raw virtual memory: 710MB / 6143MB (11%)
Camera Raw real memory: 875MB / 12288MB (7%)
Standard Preview Size: 2560 pixels
Displays: 1) 1680x1050, 2) 2560x1600

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: AMD Radeon HD - FirePro D300
Init State: GPU for Image Processing supported by default with custom export support
User Preference: Auto

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Users/*me*/Pictures/Lightroom/Lightroom Catalog-v13.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/*me*/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in
3) Flickr
4) Nikon Tether Plugin

Config.lua flags: None

 

 

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Hi--fairly longtime LR user here. I'm running classic 13.0.1 on a MBP running 12.6.5 (it's a 2015 model so I don't think I can upgrade any further). Tonight, I experienced the seemingly common issue where blacks/shadows in my images were rendering lighter in the Develop module than in the Library module. I checked my Preferences and shut off the GPU as explained in other threads. That seems to have fixed the issue in the Develop module. However, when I export the images, the shadows and blacks do not render how they should--there is a lot of noise and those areas are generally lighter than they should be. You can see the difference in the background of the images below. I figured out a workaround where I sent the images to PS and exported from there (images were rendered fine that way) but that's a lot of extra work that I shouldn't have to do.

 

Is this a known issue? And will moving back to an earlier version of LR fix this issue? I shot/processed a few times this week without any similar issues. It only popped up tonight. Have also tried restarting/rebooting and nothing fixes it.

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LEGEND ,
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Lots of reports about this on older Macs (e.g. 8 years old) with graphics processors whose drivers are no longer supported by the manufacturer, and Adobe is actively investigating.  Click the Apple icon in the upper-left corner and do About This Mac. Post a full-resolution screenshot (not a phone pic) of the About window so we can see precisely which hardware you're running.

 

Some report that setting Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor to Off helps with the Export problem, while others report that it does not.  There are many reports that rolling back to LR 12.3 works around the issue, with no reports I know of to the contrary.

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Nov 07, 2023 Nov 07, 2023

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thank you, this is what I am running.

 

Screen Shot 2023-11-07 at 8.08.02 AM.png

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Nov 07, 2023 Nov 07, 2023

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I have an image that was shot in low light with some dark shadow areas. The shadow clipping is turned off but the blue areas are still appearing. This also appears on the image when exported.

 

*ive covered the image for privacyScreen Shot 2023-11-07 at 10.06.19 AM.png

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LEGEND ,
Nov 07, 2023 Nov 07, 2023

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@The Matia  "Metal: AMD Radeon HD - FirePro D300"

@bgranofsky "AMD Radeon R9 M370X 2 GB"

 

Yeah, these are previously reported problem children, thanks for confirming. 

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Nov 09, 2023 Nov 09, 2023

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I have recently upgraded to LrC 13.0.1 with Camera Raw 16.0. Since then I have had all my darker images export with serious noise and banding issues. I ended up migrating my catalog to LR and exporting from there with no issues. I can't keep doing it though, our workflow is from LrC. Any ideas?? I'm attaching the files from LRC and the ones from LR for reference.

5F2A5315-Edit.jpg5F2A5315-Edit.jpg

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Nov 09, 2023 Nov 09, 2023

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BTW, I have tried turning off the graffics processor. I am now going to try rolling back. Thanks to evreyone for the responses.

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