P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 

• App version
• System details
• Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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[Michael van Bevern]

Here are the attachments again, this time in direct view for easier comparison.

[valeri_444]

LRC ver 14.5.1 Windows 11

At present the AI Remove tool is unusable for half of what I usually use it for. I use LR daily, and so do other editors I work with and we have all been dipleased with the latest updates to the AI Remove tool. It causes a number of issues between us and now takes us longer to edit. I frequently use it to remove stray hairs and frizzy hair. Lately when I make a selection, the tool reaches beyond my selection and replaces the friz I am trying to remove with different, chuncky looking friz, often full of weird looking pixelated discolored artifacts. There are other issues too with the regular remove tool just leaving burry blobs where it removes things, but I digress. What was once a quick task for me now takes way too long. Please roll back whateve you have done untill you can acctually improve it.

Original:  AI Removed Friz: 

[ISTO_Photog]

Generative remove is leaving the area way too light and reflective  

[johnrellis]

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@ISTO_Photog: "Generative remove is leaving the area way too light and reflective"

Your screenshot suggests you've applied Remove on top of an AI mask, e.g. Background.  Look in the Develop tool bar -- is the AI Edit Status button yellow? If so, click it and you'll see:

Click Update to recompute the Background mask so the removed area matches the background.

[DifferR]

It would be great if this command could type commands like Photoshop.

[gulottaimagery]

Currently getting a black box when performing Generative Remove. Just tried to remove a stray hair and this is what I got. Tried a few different times and it kept happening.. May need to update.

[johnrellis]

@gulottaimagery: "getting a black box when performing Generative Remove."

Do the menu command Help > System Info. If you're not on version 14.5.1 (the latest), then do Help > Updates.

If that doesn't help, then update your graphics driver by going directly to the manufacturer's web site, rather than relying on Windows Update or a manufacturer's update utility:
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html#solution-4

If that doesn't help, please copy/paste here the entire contents of the LR menu command Help > System Info -- that will let us see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running.

[Jonathan_Seattle]

The real answer is the opposite of upgrading. You need to revert to the prior version of Lightroom Classic. In 14.4 the AI remove works fine. in 14.5 it is a mess.

[johnrellis]

While 14.5 does change the behavior of Generative AI Remove in ways that many people don't like (including me), that's most likely unrelated to @gulottaimagery's problem of a black square created by Remove. That's most likely an issue with the graphics driver or the GPU itself.

[gulottaimagery]

I never considered it being an issue with my GPU. I get driver updates often, and I built my PC to make sure it had the capability to handle LR & PS editing with no issues. This is the first problem I've encoutered. May be time to upgrade my GPU! 
Thanks! 

[johnrellis]

@gulottaimagery: It's premature to conclude you need to upgrade your GPU.  If updating LR and the most recent graphics driver direxctly from the manufacturer's web site doesn't address the issue, copy/paste here the entire contents of the LR menu command Help > System Info -- that will let us see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running.  

Adobe is constantly updating LR's use of the GPU, aggressively pushing the GPU's capabilities to get the best performance, and it's constantly tripping over bugs in graphics drivers (of which there continue to be many, which is why the manufacturers release new drivers once or twice a month).

[Jonathan_Seattle]

Just try uninstalling 14.5 and installing 14.4. It is easy and you'll see there is nothing wrong with your GPU setup.