P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 

• App version
• System details
• Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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[johnrellis]

@Mathias23592962evfe: "The marked object is replaced by some other object."

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[Leandro_Barreto]

Remover objetos por IA deveria de fato remover objetos. Eu recebo muito resultado ruim, incluindo objetos que não deveriam estar ali. Se o objetivo é remover, não deveria incluir. Removendo libros de uma prateleira recebi imagem colocando LIXO, uma lata de lixo e uma torre de papel amassado no lugar. No Photoshop funciona melhor quando eu consigo descrever com prompt simples: "remove with content aware". É mágico! Só que no LR é uma tristeza. São muitas tentativas. Tantas que me questiono se essa é uma ferramenta útil no LightRoom, porque só me fez perder MUITO tempo de trabalho. Triste e frustrante.

[johnrellis]

@Leandro_Barreto: "I question whether this is a useful tool in LightRoom, because it only made me waste A LOT of work time."

There are many dozens of examples posted in this thread showing it usually works quite well. But as with any AI tool, there are certainly some instances where it doesn't. Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from a problem unmodified original photo (not a screenshot) and call out what you're trying to remove.

[donbanks]

LR Classic R 14.1.1 Camera Raw 17.1. MacOS 14.6.1, Apple M1 Max, 64GB

I'm attempting to replace an electrical box on a wall that intrudes into the rectangle for the graffitee that is the subject of the image. What I get with generative AI is new material with people and objects that aren't in ant of the photos in my library. I also get partial replacements and replacement with other objects in the image. Since the box is surrounded by a stucco wall, I would have expected that it would use this adjacent area to remove the object. In no iteration was the replacement anywhere close to replacng the box with anything closely resembling the surrounding wall. Totally useless for this photo in any case.

[johnrellis]

@donbanks: "I'm attempting to replace an electrical box on a wall that intrudes into the rectangle for the graffitee that is the subject of the image."

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects, but there's no guarantee obviously with your photo.

[Mathias23592962evfe]

Hello.



This is the original photo.







I wanted to remove the person in the foreground, but I got this:







I made several attempts. Once there was a road construction worker, once a
child bending down, and finally this very object. What happened there?



Best regards

M. Dietrich

[johnrellis]

@Mathias23592962evfe, the photos didn't actually get inserted into your reply. If you inserted them into your email, that won't work -- you have to do it by coming back to the web in your browser to reply.  Regardless, perhaps just attach them rather than insert them into your reply in the browser. Thanks.

[Mathias23592962evfe]

Hello,



this is the second attempt to send the picture before and after removing the
person in front.



Best regards

M. Dietrich

[johnrellis]

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Hmm, they're missing from your second reply too. I checked both Firefox and Chrome, and they're not in the HTML :-< When you go back to the replies in your web browser, do you see them?

[Heera Singh]

my ai erase not working please start this other wise i stop your cloud payment

[Hal35668775dy1a]

This does not work as well as photoshop? why?

[johnrellis]

@Hal35668775dy1a: "This does not work as well as photoshop? why?"  Generative Remove in LR uses the same algorithm as in Photoshop. Try unchecking Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't always work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos. 

If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot) and call out what's not working in LR but works in PS. With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[maguentert]

just made a mess of the attached photo.   LR classic.

[johnrellis]

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@maguentert: "just made a mess of the attached photo.   LR classic."

Uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos. Then, with Use Generative AI checked, select each entire wire or clump of touching wires, from the left end to the right end, with a generous boundary around each wire, and remove that selection before moving to the next wire. If you leave part of a wire unselected, Remove will try to match the unselected parts with more wire.

With this technique, it was straightforward to remove the wires and then some of the poles -- Remove does a good job:

[Emre.O]

The ''Remove'' tool sometimes just doesn't remove. It replaces the image with some other genarated creepy stuff.. But i only want to ''Remove'' the stuff, not to replace it with something weird!

[johnrellis]

@Emre.O: "It replaces the image with some other genarated creepy stuff."

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[umlautnord]

I'm so frustrated that gen AI remove is still just terrible sometimes at even vaguely matching the surrounding background pattern. Things like, say, a sky?

I know there are workarounds—I've discussed them with folks previously in this thread. But it just seems like such a basic need/requirement for the feature. Local AI-based remove can do it. Please, please get generative AI on board. It's one of the biggest problems with the feature for me in LrC/D/etc.

[Newbie2025]

Hello, I was using the Remove Tool with no issues then it stopped working.  Could I have clicked a wrong button that disabled that feature?

 Thanks!

[johnrellis]

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@Newbie2025: "I was using the Remove Tool with no issues then it stopped working."

Change the Opacity slider to 100:

[CaroleSD]

Where are the three options?   Generative remove still has some flaws in removing.   The removed part leaves a 'shadow' sometimes.

[johnrellis]

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@CaroleSD: "Where are the three options?"

There are four flavors (modes) of Remove:

Clone:

Heal:

Content-Aware Remove:

Generative AI Remove:

[johnrellis]

@CaroleSD: "The removed part leaves a 'shadow' sometimes."

There are several possible causes of that:

1. After clicking Remove, check that the Opacity slider is 100 -- LR infrequently changes it to something else.

2. If you applied Remove on top of an AI mask (e.g. Sky or Subject mask), do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask.

There are other possible causes, but to help with those, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). 

[AlpineVideo]

Underwhelmed and underimpreseed with the AI removal in LrC. Can't even compare it to the same in PS. Total waste of time and crap. I keep trying to remove a mic stand all the piece of crap AI wants to do is replace it with another mic and stand. It's a total waste of time, crappy apps on my phone do a better job!

[johnrellis]

@AlpineVideo: "Can't even compare it to the same in PS. ... I keep trying to remove a mic stand all the piece of crap AI wants to do is replace it with another mic and stand. "

PS and LR use the same Adobe Firefly algorithm to remove selections, though they have different UIs for making selections.

Uncheck Detect Objects, on by default in LR 14, and leave it off -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos. Make sure you've selected any shadows or reflections cast by the mic and stand.

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.  And though others have claimed that PS Generative Remove is superior, no one to date has posted an example photo.

[AM34509514d7oj]

It would be very useful to be able to add a prompt eg. remove object 

because sometimes it tries to change it to another thing when actually you are wanting the selected objected to be removed.