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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
October 15, 2024

Warum muss ich, wenn ich ein unerwünschtes Objekt entfernt habe beim nächsten Öffnen von Lightroom das bereits entfernte Objekt nochmal mit "Aktualisieren" erneut entfernen? Das macht doch - ausse mehr Arbeit - keinen Sinn, oder?

C.Cella
Legend
October 15, 2024

To all users having with Remove (i.e Gen Remve doing a poor job OR replacing object with another object) then use the "Report Variation" menu.



You can send the images to Adobe so that eventually can train the Ai.
Unfortunately you must add a description of the problem because there are no checkboxes for "Quality issue" or "Replaced instead of Removed"...the two common case of Generative Content failure that so many of you are experiencing, that we all experience daily.


Adobe will hopefully issue Firefly credits refunds.

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Participant
October 15, 2024

Please make the remove properties mantained from one picture to others. I have to "update settings" after each use to remove some spots or areas. It's nonsense... if i don't want to use, I don't copy "remove" properties. It's a lot of time wasted.... in previous version it works like a charm this option. Now I have to wait 10-15 sec for every picture even it's not used generative AI. Apart from this inconvenience, generative AI works fine in Lightroom.

C.Cella
Legend
October 15, 2024

@Floartgraphy

What do you mean by "Please make the remove properties mantained from one picture to others."

 

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Kai Marzog
Participant
October 15, 2024

Next problem: I updated the masks in Lightroom Classic and then Lightroom Mobile tells me on the same image that I need to update the masks AGAIN. Each update reduces the monthly credits...REALLY?

Participant
October 15, 2024

Hello,

since today i have the problem, that a few minutes after removingan object an exclamation mark appears a few minutes later to indicate that it needs to be updated. The removed object is then back and I can start again from the beginning. What is the problem?

Participant
October 15, 2024

Tried to remove a tree trunk but it simply replaced it with a smaller section . I also tried extending the selection quite a way into the background but got a similar result. Went into PS and removed it with the remove tool. 

Kai Marzog
Participant
October 15, 2024

Generative removal has to be done again for ALL masks in the catalog and this causes errors in already finished images and also means that all newly created masks are deducted from the monthly available credits? WHY?

Participant
October 15, 2024

Trovo l'ultimo aggiornamento molto peggiorativo rispetto alla versione precedente che reputavo ottima. Rimozione generativa lentissima e a scatti. Ad ogni operazione di rimozione lasci fastidiosissimi aloni chiari. Diventa tutto molto complesso. Urge patch di correzione.

johnrellis
Legend
October 15, 2024

@vincenzo_6388: "With each removal operation you leave annoying light halos."

 

Please attach full-resolution screenshots (not phone pics) of the ENTIRE LR window showing the photo after you've made your selection of the object and then after you've clicked Remove.  We'll then see exactly what's going on and can likely provide an easy solution.

Participating Frequently
October 15, 2024

When applied, the generative remove fx leaves a no-grain patch even if the area is surrounded by pixels with grain; is there a way to match the grain of the rest of the image also on the retouched area?

C.Cella
Legend
October 15, 2024

@bergamar to truly match grain in LrC is pretty much impossible.

LrC grain Library is very limited compared to other softwares.

 

What you can do is apply a Mask with Local Grain over the Gen Remove Area and try to match the image noise/grain.

 

You can simplyfy the process by creating a Full Image Mask that selects the entire image and apply to all the Image the same Local Grain.

Like this you have a match, in the sense that the grain applied by LrC will be the same everywhere BUT this approach means adding Grain above the one of the RAW. 

 

DO NOT use Global Grain in the Detail PANEL to match grain

Unfortunately it adds blur we can't control above Grain Size +30.

 

The Local Grain doesn't add blur so you can keep your orginal sharpness intact, Local Grain is better.

 

Participant
October 15, 2024

Hello.

Lightroom Classic 14.0 on Windows 11 

It would seem the app updated to this version in the background in the past 24 hours. Suddenly, the Remove tool, which has worked beautifully as an eraser, is not working - the result ends up moving fragments of the object I'm trying to erase, from one part of the image to another. 
Am I missing something?

johnrellis
Legend
October 15, 2024

@jerseyjon: "the result ends up moving fragments of the object I'm trying to erase, from one part of the image to another."

 

Please attach full-resolution screenshots (not phone pics) of the ENTIRE LR window showing the photo after you've made your selection of the object and then after you've clicked Remove.  We'll then see exactly what's going on and can likely provide an easy solution.

Known Participant
October 15, 2024

release 14.0

just upgraded and my first attempt was flawless with LR. I has worked good up to this point but this was a complicated background