P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 

• App version
• System details
• Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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[Wania_Sarwar1611]

I use lightroom classic latest version and this issue comes whenever lightroom updates new version.
My AI mask always ask me to update even when i export them. The generative remove tool does work but when i jump to the next picture and come back on the same picture it say i need to update that tool. And apter exporting the tool doesn't work like it was not applied on the pictures

[johnrellis]

@Wania_Sarwar1611: "My AI mask always ask me to update even when i export them. The generative remove tool does work but when i jump to the next picture and come back on the same picture it say i need to update that tool."

Try these troubleshooting steps:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

[Avery_Dyer5725]

Whenever I upload a grainy raw photo, if I use generative remove on a certain part, it makes that one area clearer and less grainy than the rest of the image.

[C.Cella]

Whenever I upload a grainy raw photo, if I use generative remove on a certain part, it makes that one area clearer and less grainy than the rest of the image.

By @Avery_Dyer5725

That is alas a fatal flaw of the Generative Fill and Generative Remove (even in Photoshop)

What you can do is apply Grain via Masking either ONLY on the Removed area OR on the entire image (use a Full Luma Range)

Applying grain Globally works but above Amount 30 it adds uncontrollable blur, which is absent via masking.

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[johnrellis]

Another option when the noise/grain doesn't match is to run Denoise first, then do Remove on the denoised photo. That often (but not always) helps.

[sb2314]

>From what I've read, the only edit one is supposed to do before using this
is to de-noise first.


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[miguelm25532952]

En eliminaciones de pequeños trazos, deja un borde aunque se haya seleccionado una zona que lo cubre completamente incluso con bastantes pixels extra.

[johnrellis]

@miguelm25532952: "When removing small strokes, it leaves a border even if you have selected an area that completely covers it, even with quite a few extra pixels."

1. Uncheck Detect Objects before brushing a selection -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. After clicking Remove, check that the Opacity slider is 100 -- LR infrequently changes it to something else.

3. If you applied Remove on top of an AI mask (e.g. Sky or Subject mask), do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask.

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[j37262925tghy]

Lightroom Classic version: 14.2 [ 202502071718-3869eef7 ]

Gen Remove just creating an AI version of the thing I am asking it to remove... it should be priortising bokeh imo

[johnrellis]

@j37262925tghy: "Gen Remove just creating an AI version of the thing I am asking it to remove"

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[kenjowen]

Thanks - Will check this out!

[john_2203]

Generative fill is working fantastic today. Absolutely  no worries or concerns.

[Airton_Coutinho2602]

estou com problemas na remoção com a IA

[johnrellis]

@Airton_Coutinho2602: "I'm having trouble removing with AI"

Please describe in more detail the problems you're having. A full-resolution screenshot (not a phone pic) may help.

[antebot]

The program does not cope with removing parallel high-voltage wires. Simple work on the sky background. It replaces some wires with others instead of making a clear sky. PS does this job with one click in removing distracting objects...

[johnrellis]

1. Uncheck Detect Objects before brushing a selection -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. Select the entire wire and any other wires touching it.

3. But if this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[cermetmj]

Remove rfesult - see

  

pics- artifacts

[johnrellis]

@cermetmj: "Remove result"

You need to select the stool's shadow as well as the stool itself, and also select a little bit into the fur of the dog's tail to ensure every bit of orange stool is selected. Otherwise, Remove will generate a replacement that tries to cast the unselected shadows and match any unselected orange bits.

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

[Jessica32435764ft2y]

Since the new update 8.3, generative removing is much slower and not as precise as before.

[Melodie Yvonne]

I don't understand why it won't just remove objects without putting something else there. It seemed ok until now, but all of the sudden with the latest update I am trying to just remove a person standing against the wall and leave only the wall, and it keeps replacing the person with a crazy AI monster looking person. It's like it all of the sudden forgets what the word remove means and thinks "remove" means "replace with weird stuff"

[johnrellis]

@Melodie Yvonne: "I don't understand why it won't just remove objects without putting something else there. "

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably, replacing them with background rather than AI monsters:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[lynnr8655735]

I absolutley hate the ai please let us have a turn off button

[johnrellis]

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@lynnr8655735: "I absolutley hate the ai please let us have a turn off button"

All the older, non-generative-AI remove options are still there.

Clone:

Heal:

Content-aware Remove (non-generative AI):

But you might read this short tutorial about how to Generative AI Remove more effectively:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Once you spend a few minutes learning to use the tool, it works quite well. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[Daniel336694186n1h]

Just spent an hour processing a gallery and just a few pictures yesterday and today to find that all the AI has been reset.  I have to go to every single photo and "Update all" settings!  It's 10 seconds each photo.  No way to just press a button for the entire gallery to update.  Have to go through each single photo and basically press a button to update and wait 10-50 seconds based on how many edits were made!!!  This is sooo frustrating and costing me time!!!!!!!

[johnrellis]

@Daniel336694186n1h: "I have to go to every single photo and "Update all" settings!  It's 10 seconds each photo.  No way to just press a button for the entire gallery to update."

In Library, select all the photos and do the menu command Photo > Develop Settings > Update AI Settings. That command will quickly skip over any selected photos that don't need updating.

If after doing this you're still seeing all the photos with AI settings needing updating, then try these steps:

1. Do Help > Updates to verify you're on the latest version of LR (14.3). An earlier version had a bug causing these symptoms.

2. In LR, do Edit > Catalog Settings > General > Show. That will open Windows File Explorer on the current catalog folder.

2. Exit LR.

3. Move the file <catalog>.lrcat-data to the Desktop.

4. Start LR.

5. In Library Grid view (not Loupe view), select all photos and do Photo > Develop Settings > Update AI Settings. That will recompute all the AI masks and create a new .lrcat-data file, which could take a while.