P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 

• App version
• System details
• Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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[taylory63314032]

Using Mac OS Sequoia 15.1.1, Lightroom Classic 14.0.1

[John R Ellis]

@taylory63314032: " the texture of the stone walkway that is used to fill the removed space clearly has a different texture than the actual stone around it."

The replacement patch supplied by Adobe Firefly has a maximum size of 2048 x 2048 pixels. If the selected area in the photo is larger than that, then the replacement patch gets upscaled (and blurry). Your screenshot indicates you're probably replacing an area larger than 2048 x 2048.

There's a related issue with grain (which doesn't seem to be the problem here).  See this post for how to ameliorate the problem with grain:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

[luquibro]

I'm having issues removing with High ISO Noise pictures, for example in a picture that has a plain background and there's a microphone that I want to delete, Remove will work perfectly with exception of the noise generated by the AI, that's not anything similar to the previouse noise, so the selection of the removal will be noticeable.

[John R Ellis]

@luquibro: "exception of the noise generated by the AI, that's not anything similar to the previouse noise"

Remove doesn't do well matching noise/grain.  See this post for how to ameliorate the problem with grain:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

[geoffrey_1503]

While I generally like "Generative Remove (GR)", I am often frustrated with it's decision. In particular, when I select "remove" I want the selected object removed. Too often GR instead offers something very similar to what I'm trying to eliminate. In other words, instead of "remove", it's giving me "replace with similar". For example, someone has photo-bombed my photo. I want the protuding head/body/face to go away. I try GR and it offers me three new/different heads/bodies/faces!!! So that means it's sampling the object I'm removing when it should instead by sampling the surroundings and figuring a way to extend those surrounds into the area vacated by the removed object.

[John R Ellis]

@geoffrey_1503: "Too often GR instead offers something very similar to what I'm trying to eliminate."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[Joan5C5C]

Hello, I have an error problem: generative elimination has failed. We have detected a problem and we cannot complete your request at this time. Please try again later.
And it does not come out from there. This is from LR because it works fine from PS. I await your response on how to solve it. Thank you.

[John R Ellis]

@Joan5C5C: " I have an error problem: generative elimination has failed. We have detected a problem and we cannot complete your request at this time. Please try again later."

See my reply to your other post here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

[teodora.velikov]

Since the new update, the AI remove tool doesn't seem to be doing to work seamlessly. I attach two photos so you can see. 

[John R Ellis]

@teodora.velikov: "Since the new update, the AI remove tool doesn't seem to be doing to work seamlessly."

Generative Remove has always had occasional issues with matching the tone of uniform backgrounds like sky -- it's not new to LR 14:

You can often ameliorate this by using the Heal tool on top of the Generative Remove, e.g.

 

There are other issues with replacement patches large than 2048 x 2048 and with matching grain.

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

[MarkHop777]

Remove Tool has trouble removing telephone lines. This seems to be a common item editors wish to remove, but I'm not alone in this. From a user standpoint, it seems like a program of this caliber should be able to remove thin lines with ease. Is there any plan to improve this aspect? Removing a thin line takes multiple tries and usually removes content I wish to keep. Please help with tips if I can change the Remove options on my end for easier removal of these types of objects.

Thank you,

Mark

[John R Ellis]

@MarkHop777: "Remove Tool has trouble removing telephone lines. ... Removing a thin line takes multiple tries and usually removes content I wish to keep.

Generative Remove will usually do a good job with telephone lines. Some tips:

1. Uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos. 

2. Make sure you select the entire line in one selection -- if you don't, Remove will try to match the unselected pieces.

But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[paulina_amox]

Bardzo pogorszyła się jakość usuwania przedmiotów za pomocą sztucznej inteligencji w Lightrrom Classic, w Lightroom mobilnym funkacja nadal działa bardzo dobrze. W Classic często zamiast usuwanego przedmiotu pozostaje jego poświata lub zupełnie inny losowo wstawiony element zamiast tła. Stempel również nie zawsze działa jak należy, nawet w przypadku ustawienia krycia na 100% prześwitują pod nim elementy, które chcę zakryć, wcześniej tego problemu nie było. 

[John R Ellis]

@paulina_amox: "In Classic, instead of the removed object, its glow often remains, or a completely different randomly inserted element instead of the background. The stamp also does not always work properly, even when the opacity is set to 100%, the elements I want to cover show through"

It sounds like you're applying Remove on top of an AI mask, such as Sky or Background, which can leave a "ghost" image behind -- this has always been the case, even before Generative Remove was introduced. Do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask.

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.