P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 

• App version
• System details
• Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

Posted by:

[kentmcpherson]

The Photoshop remove tool worked flawlessly.  Maybe I just have to go into PS to remove objects? 

[Stephenbracc]

No before this update it was working perfectly and I didnt have to go into photoshop. Now it's not working. 

[johnrellis]

@Stephenbracc: "before this update it was working perfectly and I didnt have to go into photoshop. Now it's not working."

Please describe in more detail what's not working. Attaching a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo could help.

[Michael37030880xp0m]

I have same problem. I have Sony a7RV ARW format.  I follow the same workflow ( I did use remove before ) and the object is still there.  That was no shadow and I included everything.  Same workflow in both Lr and Ps works just fine. 

[johnrellis]

@Michael37030880xp0m: "I follow the same workflow ( I did use remove before ) and the object is still there.  That was no shadow and I included everything. "

Make sure the Opacity slider is set to 100:

You'll have to make at least one brush stroke to see the slider. 

If that doesn't help, please describe in detail the steps you're taking and what you observe.

[Kickflipkid687]

Some feedback I'd have with the latest version , in 14.1.1, is that when you remove/cleanup background spots, it often will remove too much noise/grain, or have other grid like artifacts, that then doesn't match up with the rest of the image and stands out. 

[Terry Payman]

Same here, and the very effective workaround for me was to always denoise first.

[johnrellis]

@Kickflipkid687: "when you remove/cleanup background spots, it often will remove too much noise/grain"

The replacements made by Generative Remove sometimes don't match the photo well. To get better matches:

1. Adobe recommends applying Denoise before Remove (as @Terry Payman indicated).

2. The replacement patch supplied by Adobe Firefly has a maximum size of 2048 x 2048 pixels. If the selected area in the photo is larger than that, then the replacement patch gets upscaled (and blurry).

3. Sometimes there's a distinctly visible boundary where the tone or noise don't match. You can often use the Heal tool around the boundary to get better feathering and make it less noticeable -- apply Heal in small brush strokes.

2. For grain/noise in particular, see this post for how to ameliorate the problem by adding the grain back:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

[lizannec24357135]

Same here

[johnrellis]

@lizannec24357135, see my reply to your other post:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

[tkoenig4141]

Same here, even with 14.01 update. After the Update from 13 to 14 the program does this even with photos done in version 13. So it can't be a user error, due to in 13 with the same masking it is ok. All variants are wrong. I would like to remove a manhole cover from a street and got 3 variants of distorted manhole cover as remove, instead of pure asphalt.

[C.Cella]

@tkoenig4141 without instructions Ai doesn't know what to do.

Try in Phothsop and type "asphalt".

Even if Ps fails you can more comfortably generetate many variations AND view their thumbnails.

LrC will demand you to spend much time to view even only 3 variations.

In any case please use the Report Variations option.

That is the best way to pass the problem directly to Adobe.

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[johnrellis]

@tkoenig4141: "I would like to remove a manhole cover from a street and got 3 variants of distorted manhole cover as remove, instead of pure asphalt."

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[peterg50808669]

Does not work. The old version would allow me to simply remove unwanted objects without trace. I have spent half an hour with the new version trying to remove a simple, unwanted bit of building from the edge of a picture. Regenerative AI keeps replacing it with something unwanted, heal keeps leaving a grey smuge. How can I get back to the old system that simply worked?

[Stephenbracc]

I agree

[aratir]

I agree... this no longer works. The previous version was flawless and so easy to use. this is a huge bummer!!!!

[johnrellis]

@peterg50808669: "trying to remove a simple, unwanted bit of building from the edge of a picture. Regenerative AI keeps replacing it with something unwanted,"

This usually happens when there are pixels beyond the edge that have been cropped out due to Crop, Transform, or Lens Corrections. So undo any of those you've applied and then do the Remove. 

See this article for more details:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[Old Birch]

I had most of the same problems as stated above, but the lightroomqueen article (linked in the JRE's reply above) solved the problems I was having. It's great to not have to photoshop for this.

[Sukudhew3479648237xu]

Yes, I too try to avoid going into Photoshop - because of its bloated file sizes. Having said that, the remove feature in the latest version of Lightroom is still inferior to the one in Photoshop (even more so with the recent upgrade of the tool in Photoshop 2025).

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[Dave282513420lz9]

Same issue! It was working amazingly then after the LRC update, it doesn't work anymore. Please correct this - I've quickly grown to rely on this feature.

[johnrellis]

@Dave282513420lz9: "after the LRC update, it doesn't work anymore."

There have been a number of complaints that LR 13 did it better, but so far no one has provided any examples or details. Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from an unmodified original photo in which LR 14 isn't doing as well as you'd like. 

[steven30428533bjee]

Just try and use it - you'll see for yourself. Why do people try to push the blame on to users that have been using the product without problem for years. the issue is with LR, not us!

[johnrellis]

@steven30428533bjee: "Just try and use it - you'll see for yourself. "

I use it everyday, both in my own work and successfully helping dozens of people here.

If you're having problems with Remove, attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects. See here for the complete list of those 32 33 posts:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic... 

[Martin32849430psz8]

This 100%.

Whenever I try to use it, it just leaves behind random fragments from the selection to be removed, in random places.

I've just tried to use it to remove an unwanted bit of tree from the surrounding sky and it's failed.  Worse, the (previously faithful) Clone tool has left behind a ghost of the tree which I CANNOT remove.

Seriously Adobe, you need to get some real-world testers before you release some of this - we're paying good money for a product that's letting us down...

[johnrellis]

@Martin32849430psz8: "it just leaves behind random fragments from the selection to be removed, in random places.  ... the (previously faithful) Clone tool has left behind a ghost of the tree which I CANNOT remove."

There might be multiple issues here:

1. Are you applying Remove and/or Clone on top of an AI mask, e.g. a Sky mask?  That will often leave behind ghosts of the removed objects. Recompute the mask by doing the menu command Help > Update AI Seettings.

2. Regarding the random fragments, do you have Detect Objects selected?  It often fails to select the entire object if it's long and skinny.  Uncheck it and try the Remove without it.

If this doesn't help, see this article for how to remove objects more reliably -- it's a quick read:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.