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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

Adobe Employee ,
Aug 13, 2024 Aug 13, 2024

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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Adobe Employee , Dec 12, 2024 Dec 12, 2024

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

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New Here ,
Feb 27, 2025 Feb 27, 2025

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Generative Remove Failed: We're experiencing delays due to high demand. Please try again later.  I tried agian multiple times. How can I get around this? I have alot of dust spots to remove from a large timelapse sequence.

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LEGEND ,
Feb 27, 2025 Feb 27, 2025

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Use the Clone or Heal mode for dust spots -- much faster, doesn't use Adobe severs. And just as good.

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Advocate ,
Feb 27, 2025 Feb 27, 2025

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Content Aware (renamed as Remove) is also good for spots or hot pixels.

For small stuff it works.

 

 

 

 

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Feb 27, 2025 Feb 27, 2025

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thanks, tried this. didn't remove all the spots chosen and wouldn't refresh.

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Feb 27, 2025 Feb 27, 2025

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Thanks, not in this particular situation.

 

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LEGEND ,
Feb 27, 2025 Feb 27, 2025

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@coryp21354218: The three non-generative-AI modes usually do very well with small spots. It would be interesting to see an example where it's failing -- attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot).

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Mar 01, 2025 Mar 01, 2025

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i do it to remove a face and in the place it generates new faces.

why not put a tab , with the old options ? like cloning and stuff

 

lots of time those stuf doesnt work, creating lots more of work

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LEGEND ,
Mar 01, 2025 Mar 01, 2025

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@valentinosh: "i do it to remove a face and in the place it generates new faces...lots of time those stuf doesnt work, creating lots more of work"

 

If you select a face but leave parts of the body unselected, even parts that are disconnected, Remove will generate a replacement that tries to match that body. Select all of the body along with the face. 

 

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

 

"why not put a tab , with the old options ? like cloning and stuff"

 

The older Clone, Heal, and Content-Aware modes are still available:

johnrellis_0-1740882602621.pngexpand image

 

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 01, 2025 Mar 01, 2025

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When I use generative fill in LRC it often shows the outline of the area that I selected, leaving a border. I've attached an unmodified jpeg as well as a screenshot of the before and after where you can see the line of the selection. 

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LEGEND ,
Mar 01, 2025 Mar 01, 2025

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Often, Remove doesn't match tones well in flat tonal areas, as in your example. Sometimes you can fix that by selecting a larger area:

johnrellis_0-1740876406499.pngexpand image  johnrellis_1-1740876426234.pngexpand image

(You can get rid of the newly added wall outlet with a second application of Remove.)

 

Other techniques for ameliorating a tone mismatch: make the selection more raggedy; use short strokes with the Heal tool around the boundary to get better feathering; use the Brush mask and set Texture, Clarity, and Sharpness low to blur the area.

 

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Mar 03, 2025 Mar 03, 2025

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Remove AI does not work. No apply buttom. Instead of removing the imge is being replaced.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 03, 2025 Mar 03, 2025

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"Instead of removing the imge is being replaced."

 

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 04, 2025 Mar 04, 2025

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Hi, I am trying to understand why my generative remove attempts are sometimes very blurry compared to the rest of the photo, even with small patches. It was the case in all my session yesterday. For some reason, today, simply regenerating the same spots gives better results (but still blurry). I have the feeling Photoshop does better here, at least, is more consistent.
My photos are not high resolution (only 12MP DNG from a Pixel 6a)...

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Mar 04, 2025 Mar 04, 2025

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@CedricSimon: "I am trying to understand why my generative remove attempts are sometimes very blurry compared to the rest of the photo, even with small patches. It was the case in all my session yesterday. For some reason, today, simply regenerating the same spots gives better results (but still blurry)."

 

Generative AI Remove often doesn't match the surrounding noise/grain with replacement patches.  Sometimes running Denoise first significantly improves the match.  If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot) and attach a screenshot showing what you've selected for Remove. That will let us see more precisely what the issue might be.

 

"I have the feeling Photoshop does better here, at least, is more consistent."

 

PS and LR use the same Adobe Firefly Generative AI Remove, though their user interfaces are different, and they have different other remove modes (e.g. Heal, Clone, and Content-Aware in LR). So when comparing Generative Remove in the two apps, in LR make sure you've got Remove mode selected with Use Generative AI selected:

johnrellis_1-1741116475518.pngexpand image

 

and in PS make sure Mode: Generative AI On is selected:

johnrellis_0-1741116326552.pngexpand image

 

If you encounter an example where Generative Remove behaves differently in the two apps, it would be good to post an example here (with unmodified, full-resolution JPEGs).  To date, no one has posted an example where the two apps differ.

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 06, 2025 Mar 06, 2025

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Well, I am realizing that in PS I was not using the "remove tool" from Camera Raw, but the "generative fill" floating windows, and I simply enter nothing, so basically it removes my selection. 
So in the end, in PS I was not doing the modification on the DNG file, but on a "flatten/exported" version of it, after Camera Raw has done its work. This could explain the small differences I noticed!

 

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Mar 05, 2025 Mar 05, 2025

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I tried to remove a tree on the right side. The generative remove yields unusable results: the sky is completely off. Any idea how to fix this?
Much appreciated!

Lightroom classic 14.1.1
Sonoma Version 14.6.1 (23G93)



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Mar 05, 2025 Mar 05, 2025

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Did you use a sky mask? If so, you must update that mask. Another thought: This kind of removal might work better with the normal remove tool, rather than generative remove tool.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Mar 05, 2025 Mar 05, 2025

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I did not use any masking.
The regular remove tool gives me trippy results because the tree is on the border of the frame.

Isn't this a setting/color space thing? This is a 3984x5976 DNG file

Thanks Johan!

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Mar 05, 2025 Mar 05, 2025

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Disable any cropping and disable lens corrections, then try the regular remove tool again. I have seen these color problems with generative remove in a gradient too. I don't think it's a color space thing, but just a limitation of the technology.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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mmh, I guess so. I cannot really understand why a gradient with matching texture seems to be an impossible task thus far. Thanks!

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Mar 05, 2025 Mar 05, 2025

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@Tom de Kort "I tried to remove a tree on the right side. The generative remove yields unusable results: the sky is completely off."

 

Many have observed here that the replacements made by Generative Remove sometimes don't match the photo's tone or noise, especially with smooth gradients like your sky. To get better matches, these techniques sometimes help:

1. Adobe recommends applying Denoise before Remove. This can reduce the noise, making it more likely the replacement will match.

2. The replacement patch supplied by Adobe Firefly has a maximum size of 2048 x 2048 pixels. If the selected area in the photo is larger than that, then the replacement patch gets upscaled (and blurry). Try removing smaller selections if possible.

3. Conversely, try making a larger selection, even including the entire background. Upscaling of the replacement sometimes won't be noticeable then.

4. Sometimes there's a distinctly visible boundary where the tone or noise don't match. You can often use the heal tool around the boundary to get better feathering and make it less noticeable -- apply Heal in small brush strokes. Or use a Brush mask with maximum feathering, dropping local Texture, Clarity, and Sharpness to their minimum values. Sometimes, making a very raggedy selection around the object makes the boundary less noticeable.

5. For grain/noise in particular, see this post for how to ameliorate the problem by adding the grain back or reducing the grain:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

 

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With your screenshot, I got pretty good results with step 3, selecting most of the sky except the sun's corona (which I assume you want to preserve):

 

johnrellis_0-1741203466945.pngexpand image johnrellis_1-1741203486839.pngexpand image

 

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Great tips, i can work with this. Thank you, much appreciated!

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Mar 05, 2025 Mar 05, 2025

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Using this thread to ask a question, since there's quite a bit of knowledge:

I tried this week end using Gen remove on an image I wanted to export a HDR version as well.

 

If I do the remove while HDR is on, going back to SDR mode, the replaced portions are almost complete dark.

Reverse happens if I do the remove on the SDR version, switching to HDR yields pure white.

 

My first reflex was to kill any AI masks; none were impacted in any case by the Gen remove, and it didn't change anyway.

 

Am I missing something or is it not possible to do that?



MacBook Pro 16’’ M1 Pro 16GB on OSX Ventura 13.1

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@AlexJz: "If I do the remove while HDR is on, going back to SDR mode, the replaced portions are almost complete dark. Reverse happens if I do the remove on the SDR version, switching to HDR yields pure white."

 

I just did a quickie test and didn't observe that. In either direction, the Remove replacement remained well-blended in.  I don't recall any posts about this before, but since HDR editing isn't widely used yet, you may be the first to report a bug or limitation.  

 

Please upload a sample raw and screenshots showing the precise Remove select you've made and any changes you've made to Basic panel sliders. Upload the raw to Wetransfer, Dropbox, Google Drive or similar free service and post the sharing link here.

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Doesn't work on underwear/swimsuit photography even if it's completely covered intimate parts. I completely understand the reasoning behind this but we use these tools to work and they shouldn't hinder but they should make our work easier... 

Luigi Irace --

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