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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

解決に役立った回答 daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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DaHaLe255371

Participant

It doesn't work,or I am doing something wrong. I select a shoulder on the edge of the picture that intrudes on a group photograph. It should be easy - the background is trees and sky. The generative Ai replaces it with a distorted shoulder.

johnrellis

Legend

@DaHaLe255371: " I select a shoulder on the edge of the picture that intrudes on a group photograph. It should be easy - the background is trees and sky. The generative Ai replaces it with a distorted shoulder. "

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

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Jeffrey38584742n0b0

Participant

Amazing! Thank you for this new feature. I do astrophotography, and removing satellite trails is difficult at best. The new AI-assisted Generative Removal is the perfect answer!

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Corniger

Inspiring

What I forgot to mention:
when selecting on any of my 3 machines (i7-9850H, 128 RAM, Quadro RTX 3000; 2x Xeon e5-2667, 128 RAM, Quadro M5000; AMD FX 8350, 32 RAM, GTX 980; all Win 10 x64) the selecting tool likes to stop working until I apply the edit. I can, after selecting the first are, only to a straight line or dot, with some delay, or not brush anymore period. After commiting the edit, it works again.

default41kqsjmy25bb

Participant

I was having a bit of an issue with the desk top untilI realized that my photo somehow had been cropped. Once I uncropped I had not trouble. It is awesome. See example.

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brunol79928023

Participant

Very good tool

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Admirable_Wizard157F

Adobe Employee

Removing power lines or cables sometimes works great, sometimes draws cables / lines back in, even with image created by pano merge which has no overall lens correction or transform applied. Using bigger / more unevenly shaped selection sometimes helps.

Removing something against sky sometimes generates strange textures (see image. This view is zoomed to 300%).

johnrellis

Legend

@Admirable_Wizard157F, there have been a couple of other reports about this. Could you please attach here a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original unmodified photo so Adobe can reproduce the bad results.

johnrellis

Legend

Here you go. I realize that trying to take out the cables supporting a cable car is suspect, but they are a mess as a result of the pano merge and so I thought I'd see what it looked like with them taken out. I was surprised at how hard it was to get rid of them with AI and how much the sky behind was messed up (per previous image upload).

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With your uploaded image, which already had some removes applied and has some artifacts in the sky, it was straightforward for me to select the cables and remove them with the Generative AI option. Observations:

- Don't use Object Aware -- it doesn't recognize most of the cables.

- When selecting the cables, if you don't select all the cables from the right edge to the mountains, and don't select all the pieces of the cable that are touching and try to remove them one piece at a time, Remove will be too clever and generate replacement cables to match the bits left unselected.

Here was my first attempt:

But Remove hasn't quite matched the blue-sky-and-haze replacements, as you observed, and you can see faint outlines of the selections. There are several reports of that here.

In this case, I found that selecting most of the sky around the cables generated a replacement that more smoothly matched the remaining sky (and also got rid of the artifacts from your previous edits):

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frankk88475297

Participant

I have been trying to remove people from the background of a picture I took of my wife in Venice using manual Lightroom and photoshop edits but could never get it right. The new AI feature easily removed the people and filled in the background with what it "thought" should be there. I am not sure if the new background is accurate but I love what it did. Great tool and can't wait to see what the final product does.

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Federico35685904b9y4

Participant

Sometimes, the AI did not undestand that i want to remove something replacing it with the background.

johnrellis

Legend

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

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Gerard38305403cjab

Participating Frequently

Grassprieten zoals deze worden vaak niet verwijderd, maar vervangen

Graag verwijderen zoals commando aangeeft (vinkje behoud object staat uit)

johnrellis

Legend

@Gerard38305403cjab: "Blades of grass like this are often not removed, but replaced"

When I apply Generative Remove to your screenshot, it does a good job of replacing the blade of grass with background:

This indicates it's likely you have applied a Crop, Lens Corrections, or Transform, or you have a camera that automatically crops out a small border around the raw photo when you import it. Undo any Crop, Lens Corrections, and Transform and try again. See this article for more details:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

If that doesn't help, please attach the original photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

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Elena3852086441ny

Participant

A ferramenta "IA Generative" é incrível!!! Uma pena que às vezes ela faz exatamente o que eu preciso que é deletar o objeto indesejado e substitui-lo por completo de fundo fake e perfeito (o que pra mim é mais importante); mas as vezes ela simplesmente substitui por um elemento qualquer (o que eu jamais quero). A ferramenta está a decidir sozinha o que ela faz, se complementa o fundo original ou se substitui por objeto. Isso é triste!