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The recommended order for applying edits is:
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@defaultoqq64s6tqtvx, that ghost image is caused by applying Remove (any mode of Remove) on top of an existing mask. Do Settings > Update AI Settings, or apply Remove first and then apply the mask.
This is as-designed by Adobe, though it confuses many people and doesn't fit their natural workflows.
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Ah - yes, makes sense now. Thank you!!!!!
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So far I'm loving this feature guys. Mostly it works amazingly, way better than I could do in photoshop. A couple of things for feedback
Keep up the great work
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@All Is Light: "I often just want something removed and blended with the background, rather that add some object"
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.
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@All Is Light: "Sometimes I can see the delineated area that was removed. It often needs to blend better."
There have been a few posts here about that. If you attach here a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo and call out the object being removed, that will provide more examples to Adobe of what users are finding doesn't work well. See here for a simple technique I've found to avoid the issue:
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Much easier than opening up photoshop to remove unwanted objects
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It works great or much better in a high-definition RAW file, even when converted to .jpg than in a lower-resolution .jpg file. More information available for it I'm guessing? It is a work in progress, so I hope for much-improved results soon.
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Tried to remove a building and got a building shaped white spot. followed your advice about order of procedures.
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@defaultmhofob4q9t16: "Tried to remove a building and got a building shaped white spot."
Did you apply Remove on top of an AI mask, e.g. a Sky mask? If so, do Settings > Update AI Settings or apply Remove first and then the mask.
If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail.
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A ferramenta "IA Generative" é incrível!!! Uma pena que às vezes ela faz exatamente o que eu preciso que é deletar o objeto indesejado e substitui-lo por completo de fundo fake e perfeito (o que pra mim é mais importante); mas as vezes ela simplesmente substitui por um elemento qualquer (o que eu jamais quero). A ferramenta está a decidir sozinha o que ela faz, se complementa o fundo original ou se substitui por objeto. Isso é triste!
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See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
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Grassprieten zoals deze worden vaak niet verwijderd, maar vervangen
Graag verwijderen zoals commando aangeeft (vinkje behoud object staat uit)
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@Gerard38305403cjab: "Blades of grass like this are often not removed, but replaced"
When I apply Generative Remove to your screenshot, it does a good job of replacing the blade of grass with background:
This indicates it's likely you have applied a Crop, Lens Corrections, or Transform, or you have a camera that automatically crops out a small border around the raw photo when you import it. Undo any Crop, Lens Corrections, and Transform and try again. See this article for more details:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
If that doesn't help, please attach the original photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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Sometimes, the AI did not undestand that i want to remove something replacing it with the background.
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See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.
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I have been trying to remove people from the background of a picture I took of my wife in Venice using manual Lightroom and photoshop edits but could never get it right. The new AI feature easily removed the people and filled in the background with what it "thought" should be there. I am not sure if the new background is accurate but I love what it did. Great tool and can't wait to see what the final product does.
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Removing power lines or cables sometimes works great, sometimes draws cables / lines back in, even with image created by pano merge which has no overall lens correction or transform applied. Using bigger / more unevenly shaped selection sometimes helps.
Removing something against sky sometimes generates strange textures (see image. This view is zoomed to 300%).
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I have just worked through this very thing. I tried a number of approaches, being careful not to apply generative remove before masking, and had very little success with lines against a clear blue sky.
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Remove should be applied before masking otherwise you may see artefacts (e.g ghosts of removed object)
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Yes - should have said "being careful to apply ... before ".
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@default0j54qibpting: "I have just worked through this very thing. I tried a number of approaches, being careful not to apply generative remove before masking, and had very little success with lines against a clear blue sky."
Please attach here a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original *unmodified* photo, and include a full-resolution screenshot of your failed attempts. As with @SeniorPhotoshopGeek's example, we can probably figure out quickly some tips for making this easier.
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I took some time to read more of this forum and some of the article referenced here. My first attempt was to apply the remove feature to a raw file containing overhead lines, then convert it to a dng and continue the editing. Adjusting the contrast of the sky where the lines had been removed produced a darker outline of the original remove. By simply going back to the first step in the raw file and increasing the size of the area around the lines, the problem was solved in subsequent editing.
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@SeniorPhotoshopGeek, there have been a couple of other reports about this. Could you please attach here a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original unmodified photo so Adobe can reproduce the bad results.
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Here you go. I realize that trying to take out the cables supporting a cable car is suspect, but they are a mess as a result of the pano merge and so I thought I'd see what it looked like with them taken out. I was surprised at how hard it was to get rid of them with AI and how much the sky behind was messed up (per previous image upload).
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With your uploaded image, which already had some removes applied and has some artifacts in the sky, it was straightforward for me to select the cables and remove them with the Generative AI option. Observations:
- Don't use Object Aware -- it doesn't recognize most of the cables.
- When selecting the cables, if you don't select all the cables from the right edge to the mountains, and don't select all the pieces of the cable that are touching and try to remove them one piece at a time, Remove will be too clever and generate replacement cables to match the bits left unselected.
Here was my first attempt:
But Remove hasn't quite matched the blue-sky-and-haze replacements, as you observed, and you can see faint outlines of the selections. There are several reports of that here.
In this case, I found that selecting most of the sky around the cables generated a replacement that more smoothly matched the remaining sky (and also got rid of the artifacts from your previous edits):