P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 

• App version
• System details
• Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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[Maurizio Santi]

Ciao, con l'aggiornamento build 14 lo strumento rimozione è ingestibile: anche un piccolo punto da rimuovere lascia aloni chiari. Il pc rimane bloccato alcuni secondi (core i7 32gb ram, geforce 1070). Anche senza usare la ia generativa il sistema rallenta vistosamente. Spero un una patch correttiva. Saluti.

[luckbuch]

La nueva version de remover en Lightroom empeoro considerablemente, la version anterior daba resultados mas realistas y entendia que tenia q borrar un objeto o fondo, en la version actual en lugar de remover el objeto o el fondo, lo reemplaza por algo similar y con una calidad muy artificial.

[John R Ellis]

@luckbuch: "In the current version, instead of removing the object or background, it replaces it with something similar and with a very artificial quality."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[Chris_A4086]

I am having the same experience. Generative remove just replaces object with AI hallucination of same object. Then about every 3rd time, the app freezes and crashes. Needs an immediate fix.

[John R Ellis]

@Chris_A4086: "Generative remove just replaces object with AI hallucination of same object."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

"Then about every 3rd time, the app freezes and crashes. Needs an immediate fix."

The hallucinations are unrelated to the crashes. LR's AI commands are very sensitive to bugs in graphics drivers. Try updating your graphics driver by going directly to the manufacturer's web site:
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html#solution-4

(If you're on Mac, the only way to update your driver is to update to the most recent version of Mac OS, unfortunately.)

If that doesn't help, please start a new thread describing the symptoms. Do the menu command Help > System Info and include its entire contents in that post.

[kentmcpherson]

LrC 14.0, MacOS 14.7

Tried to use the Remove Object with the new version and it just keeps trying to replace the object with something else similar.  What am I missing?  

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 

• Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
• Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

[kentmcpherson]

OK thanks.  I didn't know about including the shadow of the object in the selection.  That helped but it still wasn't as good as PS.  Nice to know if I can't get the result I want in LrC, I can go over to PS and probably get what I want. 

[kentmcpherson]

The Photoshop remove tool worked flawlessly.  Maybe I just have to go into PS to remove objects? 

[Stephenbracc]

No before this update it was working perfectly and I didnt have to go into photoshop. Now it's not working. 

[John R Ellis]

@Stephenbracc: "before this update it was working perfectly and I didnt have to go into photoshop. Now it's not working."

Please describe in more detail what's not working. Attaching a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo could help.

[PAG]

Does not work. The old version would allow me to simply remove unwanted objects without trace. I have spent half an hour with the new version trying to remove a simple, unwanted bit of building from the edge of a picture. Regenerative AI keeps replacing it with something unwanted, heal keeps leaving a grey smuge. How can I get back to the old system that simply worked?

[Stephenbracc]

I agree

[aratir]

I agree... this no longer works. The previous version was flawless and so easy to use. this is a huge bummer!!!!

[John R Ellis]

@PAG: "trying to remove a simple, unwanted bit of building from the edge of a picture. Regenerative AI keeps replacing it with something unwanted,"

This usually happens when there are pixels beyond the edge that have been cropped out due to Crop, Transform, or Lens Corrections. So undo any of those you've applied and then do the Remove. 

See this article for more details:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[Magic22]

Hey Rikk, great feature, kudos to the team. I found it actually very useful for my work (wedding photography). My feedback - for object detection I feel like the selection extension is too big. I wish there was option to scale it down, like a slider. In example below I don't want to AI generate part of Groom's back, so I had to manually substract. I wish there was more automatic detection of what's around.

I also explained that in this video: https://youtu.be/9CPouI7wG7A?si=dWfGqnZ0qtMXn5uY

[Snizhana_H]

I used Remove tool, edited other images, then returned to the first one and noticed "Some Remove tool settings need to be updated", I updated it, but after export nothing is removed in the image. What the hell?

[nathanh78671078]

YES!! i have wasted the entire day trying to reedit a gallery taht was almost done and unless i update the masks and brushes and any AI edits and then export one by one.... it doesnt work! a total NIGHTMARE

[kaitlynanne]

Same thing is happening to me! I edited a ton of wedding photos- exported them to send to my client. Reviewd the gallery on pixiset before emailing to my client and noticed that all of the things I used generative ai on, didn't export. All the little cars, people, etc in backgrounds that I spent so much time editing out are there. I went back into lighroom and it's showing the same error of needing remove settings to be updated. Any solution anyone found?!

[Eccentric_customer15C3]

I selected all the affected photos, turned on sync and did the update Lightroom said should be done. It obviously took a while, but did the trick. I would first try it on just a couple photos to see if it works for you and then do the whole batch. 

[fiendishmedia]

I found a bug....
I'm experiencing a continual need to "update" the generative AI settings on images. The error message I get is "Some remove settings need to be updated". Not sure why though. This is happening on images I'm not even working on (or syncing to) and I'm doing nothing more advanced than working on images one by one then moving onto the next. However, some of those older images no longer show the remove when I click back on them and have to be updated.

Lightroom 14
Intel 13900K
RTX 4090
64GB Ram

[rivalg]

The remove+generative AI failed to remove selected objects (humans): this tool changed the person position, the where he was looking , etc etc. No removal took effect frem that image

[John R Ellis]

@rivalg: "this tool changed the person position, the where he was looking , etc "

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove replacing are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[Lisa_Carter4181]

I was really excited for this remove feature and it worked great ....but it did not SAVE or EXPORT the result