P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

• You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
• Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
• By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
• Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
• Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
• Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 
  
  Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 

• Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
• Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

1. Denoise 
2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
4. Global Edits
5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)
   
   If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

[Coopie10]

After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise and was appalled at how slow DeNoise was after using several objects with Generative Remove. I'd rather take the image into Photoshop to remove distractions than to put up with the amount of time to finish my photo in Lightroom.

[jrsforums]

After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise
isn't the recommendation to do AI DeNoise first, before other adjustments?

[Victoria Bampton LR Queen]

Yes Denoise then Remove ideally

[martink90970734]

I'm finding that it still does not work too well to remove objects. A lot of time is wasted trying to get it to work.

[eutrop]

I´ve found some problems with the object deletion in some photos. Lightroom Classic seems sometimes not to want to delete some objects, instead it replaces them with another one. I try to force it but keeps replacing with a new similar object from its library. It doesn´t happen all the time and not even in the same kind of photos.

[John R Ellis]

@jrsforums, @eutrop, see this article for tips on removing objects instead of replacing them:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

If that article doesn't help, upload one of your original photos (not a screenshot) to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar an post the sharing link here. Describe the object you want to remove.

[David377906241oze]

Parfait, trés efficaces.

[walker5390]

I can not get it to work 

[fashionable_Wave16B8]

It works really well in many cases, but very often, the algorithm is trying to CREATE something, instead of removing what is highlighted. I tried to remove a folding chair and it put a car into the scene out of nowhere. I keep seeing this happening. It should NOT be a generative fill, it should be a remove tool only.

[martin-s]

I totally agree.

Make it a remove-only tool and leave the replacement option to Photoshop.

[jrsforums]

Yes...but....

Isn't 'remove' always really 'replacement', in that it is creating new "background" to replace what is removed?

[John R Ellis]

@fashionable_Wave16B8, "It works really well in many cases, but very often, the algorithm is trying to CREATE something, instead of removing what is highlighted. I tried to remove a folding chair and it put a car into the scene out of nowhere. I keep seeing this happening. It should NOT be a generative fill, it should be a remove tool only."

Have you tried the tips described in this article?

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/ 

If those don't help, please upload a problem original photo (not an export or screenshot) to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar, and post the sharing link here. Then we can see what you're seeing, and Adobe has an example photo of what might be going wrong.

[JorgeHL]

No está mal, pero aún falta mejorar, deja marcas de relleno, no acierta siempre.
Mayormente lo uso para rellenar o reemplazar los cables o imperfecciones del entorno.
Acabo de hacerlo con Photoshop y es tremenda la diferencia, en PS casi no se nota los cambios, en LR aún se debe mejorar.
Adjunto observación:

[John R Ellis]

@JorgeHL, had you previously applied AI masks to those areas of the photo?  If so, do Settings > Update AI Settings, and those "filler marks" could go away.  In general, though most settings in the Develop panel can be applied in any order, Remove should be applied before masking.

[Bochynek2013]

Hello, the new AI based "Remove Tool" could be the solution.
I want to remove Tattoos from Skin.
The new Tool does this work on legs very well, but not on Arms or Body.
Makes ADOBE a discrimination or  a censorship?
The pictures I work out, are all my taken by me and I have the full Copyright.
So what is the problem by Adobe?

[John R Ellis]

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@Bochynek2013, interesting. I was able to avoid the scolding error message and remove the tatoos by doing the arms in three sections but the star on the torso all at once:

[Andrew37792480onaz]

Whenever using any Ai tool there is a dark leftover of what was replaced. Use the regeneration to expand your backdrop the whole space that gets genertated just ends up being a dark space. i get the results i need but the only problem is that it'll be sort of darker than the surrounding image making it obvious the image was edited

[Gregory Omlor]

I like others have been having problems with generative AI remove replacing items, instead of removing them. In some cases making a generous selection has helped but in others it has not. It seems to be worse if something is right along an edge. 

[John R Ellis]

@Gregory Omlor, "It seems to be worse if something is right along an edge. "

Are you applying Remove to a cropped photo? It will remove items better if you first apply Remove and then crop.  If you're not cropping first, attach a sample JPEG here showing where it's going wrong.

[fashionable_Wave16B8]

BUG REPORT:

When trying to synchronize A.I. masks (e.g., sky, inverted sky for foreground), Lightroom does not sync the masks correctly. The target photo shows that it has some AI masks and the process ends normally, but it does not display the masks. When I try to update them by clicking on that triangular ! symbol, I get an error message: Lightroom Classic skipped N Generative Remove Spots, with N indicating the number of spots. This appears to be consistent and does not happen with the normal remove tool.

[Richard34313996cvpr]

Hola
a mi simplemente no me esta funcionando y me sale Error constantemente 

[John R Ellis]

@Richard34313996cvpr, Google translation of the error: "Generative Erase has failed. We have detected an issue and are unable to complete your request at this time. Try it again later."

Sometimes network firewalls on your computer, local network, or ISP mistakenly block LR's network requests. Try the steps described here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-earl...

[Alex5C27]

Tool works great. I haven't been using it for very long, but removing people walking infront of fences and railings has been a breeze. A possible improvement would be and easy wait to reintegrate grain back into the region that was corrected. If I crop into the area of the photo where the removal was performed, the patch of picture looks smooth with respect to the rest of the image. I can roughen the removal patch manually with a mask, but this would be a handy slider if possible.

[John R Ellis]

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Tip for removing an object near the edge of the photo: Temporarily disable any Crop, Lens Corrections, and Transforms before applying Generative Remove. 

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This article explains that Remove works on all the pixels of the original image, ignoring any crops. If you don't select all the pixels of the objects you want removed, then Remove will generate pixels that fit best with the remaining unselected pixels, often resulting in what we view as a "replacement" rather than a "removal".

So to select all the pixels to be removed, you need to turn off Crop, Lens Corrections, and Transform, each of which can crop the image and hide some of the original pixels near the edges of the photo. (Thanks to @JohanElzenga for the insightful observation that lens corrections crop the photo.)

See here for an example of how disabling Lens Corrections allows an object near the edge of the photo to be removed:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/threads/lightroom-generative-remove-reviews-discussion.5025... 

The interaction between Remove and Crop, Lens Corrections, and Transform explain why many are observing that removal works well in Photoshop but not LR:  In Photoshop, there are no pixels being hidden, so it's easier to select all the pixels of the object to be removed.

If this tip doesn't help remove an object near the edges, then upload the original to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

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The Remove tool should temporarily disable Crop, Lens Correction, and Transform while the tool is active (similar to how Crop shows the entire image while it's active). This will avoid a huge amount  of user confusion.

[Geert37488769nf2q]

Hallo,

In LRC I got really great results but other times you get very unexpected effects.  I remove a bag in front of a kneeled person.  As a result I got a person with three knees.  

I'm glad with the feature but it still needs improvments.