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The recommended order for applying edits is:
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I believe there's a bug with the crop plus GenAI process: if you crop away obstacles but some small fragment is still visible in your image (say a piece of a lampost) then the GenAi stubbornly refuses to delete the remnant inside the crop - because it is looking OUTSIDE the crop for context. I personally don't hink it shoudl look outside the crop for context - that's why you have cropped. But even if Adobe thinks it should, then a small grey surround around the crop bar to show you where it is taking context is required. Otherwise it's mystifying and perplexing to people.
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What you see is not a bug. Crops should be applied after the Heal tool is used. To avoid what you describe and other artefacts, it is recommended that the following order is used for edits.
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@Paul26231103atwu: "because it is looking OUTSIDE the crop for context."
This is as-designed behavior that has confused many, many people, as you can see in hundreds of posts here. Adobe's recommend order of operations is to apply Remove first and then cropping commands (Crop, Lens Corrections, Transform) -- see the top post of this thread.
Adobe's design rationale is that you might want to change the crop, so Remove looks at the entire photo. But this doesn't match most people's workflow, in which they crop the image before doing any other edits. (Why bother editing parts of the photo that will eventually be cropped out?) Others have also observed that either Remove should only pay attention to the visible pixels, or the UI should somehow indicate that Remove is operating on the entire, uncropped photo (e.g. as the Crop command shows you the entire photo). Let's hope the next version of LR will improve this confusing behavior.
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Hi, @johnrellis, you are correct, of course, in needing to remove the unwanted portions of an image prior to cropping, but, speaking for myself, I often need to crop before even knowing what might need to be removed.
May I suggest then that you word your excellent sugestion as such: if you crop before determinging what needs to be removed, then, go ahead and crop. Once you determine what needs to be removed, uncrop, remove, and recrop. Yes, that is two extra steps, but will result in (probably) only one removal.
Best,
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@gary_sc: "Once you determine what needs to be removed, uncrop, remove, and recrop."
That's what I do. With Transform and Lens Corrections, I toggle them off, do the Remove, and then toggle them on. Unfortunately, there's no such toggle for the Crop tool, so I do Copy Settings, reset the crop, do the Remove, then Paste Settings. It's a little tedious, but like you, too often I don't know what's going to be a visual distraction worthy of removal until I crop and apply other edits.
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Love this enhancent. Work most of the timens OK but sometimes it leaves some content of the removed subject. It need some further improvement to make it better. But overall I'm glad with it.
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@frans_7714: "sometimes it leaves some content of the removed subject."
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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in love with this feature. even while it doesnt always remove only replace. can't wait for the whole acess to come out it would be incredible.
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@laura_2143: "it doesnt always remove only replace."
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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Good AI generation, but the contrast with the og photo is visible much too clearly. (I removed a crane here)
Zeroing everyhting to Adobe defaults doesn't really improve this issue.
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@YannigVdW: "but the contrast with the og photo is visible much too clearly. "
There have been a number of other such examples posted here where the replacement doesn't quite match the surrounding background. You can often avoid or significantly reduce this by making a raggedy selection around the object or a much larger selection, e.g.
To help Adobe improve, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo.
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This is an awesome tool, works great too. I’ve used it on so many pics where there were unwanted elements in the background. This tool removed with ease on most everyone. I can only imagine where Adobe takes this tool with updates and improvements. Thanks Adobe for the opportunity of testing this tool out.
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It turned a scent diffuser in in a small room into a coconut. My favorite WTF transformation so far.
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@patrickm10821648: "It turned a scent diffuser in in a small room into a coconut."
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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I'm in awe!
This feature is really good to remove small items in the picture...
Like a broom, a extinguisher or a bucket...
Good job!!
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Finding generative ai very hit and miss. Sometimes works briliantly other times just replaces the selected item with a similar image or something even worse!
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See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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As of this date, I got the update and remove works a lot better! It looks similar to the remove tool in PS Beta
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I selected the Remove Tool, enabled the AI function and Object Aware and carefuly created a mask slightly larger than a car that I wanted to remove from in front of a business. I knew it was a long shot. The AI removed it and put in a new, less realistic car in its place. I checked the variations, they all featured a new car. So I refreshed and had it try again and it did the same thing, though I did enjoy the car with two front ends both coming and going. I realize that this is "generative" as in, it's going to generate something, but someone may want to remind the AI that it's part of the "remove tool" and so we're looking for an absence of something here, not an addition. It would have been super cool if it removed the car and I look forward to Adobe's continued improvements.
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"The AI removed it and put in a new, less realistic car in its place."
Make sure you've selected any shadows created by the car and all disconnected parts of it. See this article for more details on how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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It would be better if Lightroom had the dialog box like Photoshop so you could give some direction to the AI.
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The new AI replace function is frequently brilliant, particularly when removing odd people from a picture. I have had great success both when a rope was stretched infront and when a slated bench was behind. But with a completely plain background, eg sky, it is useless, insists on finding something to replicate in the space. Wouldn't matter, except that the clone tool doesn't source it's data from an alt-click selection, but also seems to find something in the picture to put in the space. Why?!!!! But still a valuable new tool, well done to all who developed it.
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@iank85881269: "But with a completely plain background, eg sky, it is useless, insists on finding something to replicate in the space."
Is the object close or touching the edge of the photo? If so, there could be cropped-out pixels that are causing this behavior, and you'll have to undo any Crop, Lens Corrections, and Transform. See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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I cannot believe how amazing the new Heal Tool AI is. It's a complete game-changer when it comes to sorting large areas and medium areas. The AI is completely believable and if not quite what you are looking for, it is well worth trying again. Thank you so much!!!