P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

• You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
• Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
• By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
• Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
• Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
• Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 
  
  Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 

• Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
• Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

1. Denoise 
2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
4. Global Edits
5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)
   
   If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

[Ian Lyons]

The reason being that the AI feature uses the Adobe Firefly servers. That being said, you can configure the Firewall to exclude Lightroom Classic (LrC), which means that the firewall is still functional for everything except LrC.

[Ivan38995758m3ye]

Hi!
Thank you for your reply!
I tried to exclude LrC both inbound and outbound in Windows Firewall but without any result.

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[John R Ellis]

@Ivan38995758m3ye: "I tried to exclude LrC both inbound and outbound in Windows Firewall"

Just to double-check, you made both inbound and outbound rules as shown in the screenshots below:

[Ivan38995758m3ye]

Yes,

I confirm that both inbound and outbound rules are defined as per your screens.

As far as I enable Windows Firewall I get this:

[John R Ellis]

@Ivan38995758m3ye: "Generative Remove Failed. We've encountered an issue and can't complete your request at this time. Please try again later."

Yeah, there have been a number of reports about that error message, with no authoritative answers as to what's causing it or how to work around it.

[sb2314]

Does it always work with firewall removed, or just work better or more
often with firewall installed?

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[Ivan38995758m3ye]

With firewall disabled I haven't experienced any issues.

[Ivan38995758m3ye]

With firewall enabled it always fails.

[Andrei36794322dsbd]

I didn't follow the recommended workflow and however, I had excellent results so far. Sometimes surprising and funny, e.g.. wishing to remove my wife from a desert landscape  she was replaved by a cute dog...

[Alain_LIMANTON4656]

Premier essai, Résultat excellent !!

Bravo.

Alain.

[andrewabphotos]

would be ace if we can alsoi include a prompt. Currently trying to open a closed eye and it keeps just creating a wierd skin patch. Would love to be able to type in 'open eye'

[adb1960]

The healing brush is definitely improving. It is almost to the level of photoshop. I still have some remnants that I have to remove 

[John R Ellis]

@adb1960: "I still have some remnants that I have to remove"

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[andrew_0076]

The spots removed do not stay when moving to the next photo, you have to update it, and if you do a large export you don't get the images you expected.

[John R Ellis]

@andrew_0076: "The spots removed do not stay when moving to the next photo, you have to update it, and if you do a large export you don't get the images you expected."

These symptoms can occur when LR can't write the .lrcat-data file for some reason, either because LR has corrupted it or there is a permissions issue. LR stores computed masks in that file. Try these steps:

1. In LR, do Edit > Catalog Settings > General > Show. That will open Windows File Explorer on the current catalog folder.

2. Exit LR.

3. Move the file <catalog>.lrcat-data to the Desktop.

4. Start LR.

5. In Library, select all photos and do Photo > Develop Settings > Update AI Settings. That will recompute all the AI masks, which could take a while. But it won't update Generative Removes, so you'll have to go to each photo with Remove, click on Remove, and then Update.

[Mike259910115hwi]

I have one complaint about Lightroom Classic Generative Remove. After I highlight a number of small dust spots to remove, I want to see what it looks like in the image. Unfortunately the image continues to show little, I don't know how to describe them other than they look like little, tags with tails do not disappear so I cannot see the results. When I close the section, then I can see them but I cannot scroll through the different choices. Please, remove the little tags so we can see what is actually happening to the image. Thank you.

[John R Ellis]

@Mike259910115hwi: "the image continues to show little, I don't know how to describe them other than they look like little, tags with tails do not disappear so I cannot see the results."

In the Remove panel, change Tool Overlay to Never (keyboard shortcut H).

[Mike259910115hwi]

Thank you. Much appreciated.

Mike Tiktinsky
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[fred333]

Bonjour, je viens d utiliser Generative AI Remove et j ai deux soucis dont un tres gros ....

D' abord  sur 3 exemples, seulement 1 seul a permis de bien faire le travail ( bravo) mais les deux autres restaient assez loin d etre satisfaisant sur le contenu du remplacement. Mais mon plus gros souci ( peutr etre par manque d experience de mon coté) est que les modifications apportées semblent l etre aussi dans le fichier ORIGINAL ! tout le contraire donc de la philosophie LrC ... pas moyen de retrouver le fichier importé sans la modif ( et parfois mal) faite par l AI Generative. Que dois je faire ? dupliquer d abord en virtuel l image originale et travailler sur le duplicate? Merci de votre aide.

[John R Ellis]

@fred333: "out of 3 examples, only 1 allowed the job to be done well (well done) but the other two were still quite far from being satisfactory on the content of the replacement."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[John R Ellis]

@fred333: "the modifications made seem to be also in the ORIGINAL file! the complete opposite of the LrC philosophy... no way to find the imported file without the modification (and sometimes badly) made by the Generative AI."

The Remove command is like every other LR Develop settings -- the edits are stored in the catalog and the image in the photo file itself is never modified. Please describe in detail the precise steps you're taking and what you're observing.  Full-resolution screenshots (not cell-phone pics) of the entire LR window are often very helpful.

[abamilen]

Can anyone tell me why this tool only works sometimes ? When its working its working great, but sometimes it just dont do ANYTHING !!

[John R Ellis]

@abamilen: "When its working its working great, but sometimes it just dont do ANYTHING !!"

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[craigl75367077]

Very happy to see this in Lightroom, so far i have not needed to send the pic's to Photoshop.

[Arnold-Norway]

I love the remove AI tool, but ran into an issue today. The story is this.
Two images .NEF were merged to panorama in LrC, then the DNG was opened in Ps 2024 to correct some geometri, and saved to tif.
Then I discovered an error from the panorama process, a black "stick" in the sky. When I tried to remove this in LrC, every way I tried left a light shadow og the "stick" I tried Remove AI with all alternatives, Heal and Copy, but the lighter stick was still there.
I use LrC 13.4 on fully updated W11 and NVidia GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GPU

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