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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

Adobe Employee ,
Apr 29, 2024 Apr 29, 2024

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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Post Camera Raw feedback here

This thread is now closed. Please update to LrC 14.x or LrD 8.x. If you wish to provide feedback, please go to the new article.



The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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Community Beginner ,
Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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After the introduction of the generative AI non of the spot removal tools work well anymore. They don't really remove spots or other small deistractions (sensor dust, straws of gras in the foreground, short plane tracks in the night sky) anymore, only making them a little less visible. They are alwys still visible afterwards, just a little less visible. Doesen't matter ehich tool I choose and aöso generative AI doesen't do a better job.

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Community Expert ,
Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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Your description suggests that you've applied the Generative AI, Clone, Heal tools to an image with an AI mask. You can easily check whether this is the case or not by looking for a red dot below the Masks icon on the toolbar. If red dot is present, then you'll need to 'Update the AI Mask'. See atatched screenshot.

 

To avoid the same issue in future, it's best to apply the Remove tool before creating an AI mask.

 

red dot mask.png

 

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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Thanks for your suggestion. I was indeed using AI maks. But updating them made no change. So I completely reset an image and tried again. Still got the problem as you can see in the screenshots.

 

That's the original image:

Bildschirmfoto 2024-06-01 um 22.39.23.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With the normal remove tool:

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With the AI remove tool:

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With the healing tool:

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With the clone tool:

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As I wrote, other things like sensor dust, hot pixels, airplane tracks, ... suffer from the same issue.

 

 

 

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New Here ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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I’m not sure I see (or understand) the solution you describe, but I did go
back and do some more work with the photograph I had previously tested.
It’s possible that I was expecting this tool to work differently than it is
intended. Taking a different approach I actually got some pretty impressive
results.

I will say that when I try to remove larger objects similar to some of what
I’ve seen demonstrated in the forum more often than not It simply replaces
the area I want to remove with an altered version. On the other hand, I
was able to remove areas in front of other objects or directly adjacent to
them with great success. As long as I kept the areas I wanted to edit
relatively small.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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Thanks for your reply. My problem is, that all remove tools don't work properly anymore. They all don't remove objekcts correctly anymore and only kind of tone them down. This even happens also for small areas like hot pixels.

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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@kernto Check the Opacity slider for each of your repairs. It sounds like it's turned down, whereas it should be at 100 for complete removal. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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Thanks a lot for your help, I guess that was the solution.

I guess I should have nitced that myself😅

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Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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Adjacent photos shot in burst. I removed 2 people, 1 van, copped final. Generative remove worked well, except for the slogan on the wall about South Africa for a free Palestine. The parts of the slogan got mashed into something unreadable, so that necessitated more cropping than I had originally wanted to do.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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Ayer estaba trabajando bien, pero hoy (junio 1) no, no elimina las manchas ni copia de un lado a otro. Supongo que hicieron una actualización.

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Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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In applying Generative AI to complex item in several very similar photos, the Generative results are rarely, if ever duplicatable. I have not found any way to replicate paint and generate, it appears random

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Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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Especially when removing an object that has sky behind it, a very obvious shadow of the object is left in the sky. So I can't even use the generative remove feature when this happens. In the image attached, you can see the person on the far right that I tried to remove. 

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Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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@lockephotography: "Especially when removing an object that has sky behind it, a very obvious shadow of the object is left in the sky. So I can't even use the generative remove feature when this happens. In the image attached, you can see the person on the far right that I tried to remove."

 

Do Settings > Update AI Settings. See here for more information:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-earl...

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Works great with small object in the background but anything large or close to object that has similar color didn't work so well.

 

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I select the object I want to remove, it goes throught the Generative process, but doesn't remove.  Just leaves a white outline around it.  

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IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.  You circle the object, hit the 'subtract' option (or the add), hit apply and NOTHING HAPPENS.  I'm left with an object with white lines around it.  

 

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@chuckw19823004: "IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.  You circle the object, hit the 'subtract' option (or the add), hit apply and NOTHING HAPPENS.  I'm left with an object with white lines around it.  "

 

The white lines around the object results from having Tool Overlay set to Always. If you set it to Auto, then the lines will appear only when the mouse is over the image.

 

You don't "circle" the object, you paint completely over and around it.  I took your screenshot and used the options Generative AI + Object Aware to completely remove the girl and the white lines. The first attempt replaced rather than removed the girl, trying to match the shadows and reflections in the water below here. So as the article above explains, I refined the selection to include the shadows and reflections, and the girl was removed. Then I included the white lines, and they disappeared too.

 

See the attached screen recording.

 

If this still doesn't help, then upload the original photo to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

 

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chuckw19823004_0-1717428713103.png

I used a different photo to not post personal photos of my grandchildren online.  Didn't just circle, shaded the whole area.  Sames result after hitting 'apply'.  just a white line.   Here's the original photo.  

 

France fountain.jpg

 

One thing I noticed after reviewing your MP4 - my photo does not have the little symbol inside the shaded area, everything else looks exactly as yours - MAC with M1, LRC Adobe.  

chuckw19823004_1-1717429341545.png

 

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@chuckw19823004, using your sample fountain photo, I got very good results. As Victoria suggested, it seems your opacity slider may not be set to 100:

johnrellis_0-1717434443304.png

 

When I use the Object Aware option to select just the ice chest, it gets replaced with some concrete to maintain the visual presence of the shadows (otherwise, the shadows would look pretty weird!):

johnrellis_1-1717434498036.png johnrellis_2-1717434548855.png

 

If I refine the selection to include the shadows and a little more generous area around the ice chest, as recommended in Victoria's article, it eliminates the shadows and doesn't generate that extra concrete:

johnrellis_3-1717434716515.png johnrellis_4-1717434750639.png

 

If I set the Opacity slider to 1, then the replacement mask generated by Remove becomes completely transparent (invisible), showing the original photo with the ice chest underneath. This matches what you've been observing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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That did it!  Per other posts, I found if I did not enlarge the area enough, it replaced with another similar object.  thanks for all your help

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Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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Check your opacity isn't too low.

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Está incrivel, caminhamos para soluções de grande qualidade. Parabéns!

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Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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I love that this is now in LR, which is great for quick fixes.

I do however find that when objects you want removed extend to the edge of the image, this tool does not handle them well. It feels like it thinks that I have not selected all of the pixels despite me using the eraser tool to the edge and beyond. Almost like there is a feathered selection when you get to the edge of the image. I have tried with "Object Aware" turned on and off, without any improvement. I have also tried several varriations of selections and refreshed the results. The problem is persistant.

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Heal isn't doing much better. It keeps trying to blend the original color of the object into the final result.

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I'll go back to Stamp for this one, but I do not think that most LR users will want to use these tools this way.

I think an improvement would be for us to tell the AI tool we want to "Remove" or "Replace" (or similar).

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LEGEND ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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Using your low-resolution screeshot, Generative AI + Object Aware did a good job of removing the object first try:

johnrellis_0-1717351599455.png johnrellis_1-1717351631946.png

 

Did you crop the photo first, with the lower-left blob having more pixels out-of-crop?  If so, then as the article above explains, Remove applies to the uncropped image, and will try to match the selected area to the out-of-crop pixels.

 

If that doesn't help, please upload the original image (uncropped) to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar, and post the sharing link here.

 

 

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After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise and was appalled at how slow DeNoise was after using several objects with Generative Remove. I'd rather take the image into Photoshop to remove distractions than to put up with the amount of time to finish my photo in Lightroom.

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Engaged ,
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After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise
isn't the recommendation to do AI DeNoise first, before other adjustments?

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