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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

Adobe Employee ,
Apr 29, 2024 Apr 29, 2024

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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Post Camera Raw feedback here

This thread is now closed. Please update to LrC 14.x or LrD 8.x. If you wish to provide feedback, please go to the new article.



The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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New Here ,
May 21, 2024 May 21, 2024

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Today I tried using the generative removal tool to remove an object from a black and white photo. I found that after the removal, the shadow of the object was still included. So, it seems that the generative removal tool might not be fully effective in black and white effects.截屏2024-05-22 10.14.57.jpg

 

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May 21, 2024 May 21, 2024

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I reverted the photo to color mode, but it still couldn’t complete the removal work, so it turns out the issue wasn’t related to black and white.

I think I know the reason. The generative removal tool makes modifications based on the original image. If your photo has undergone mask selection adjustments, it won’t be able to perform generative removal according to the existing layers.

截屏2024-05-22 10.24.35.jpg

 

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May 21, 2024 May 21, 2024

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I think you hit the nail on the head. The gen ai appears to be using the base image without adjustments. If they moved the generated images to just above the base layer, maybe our adjustments would work and not have noticeable differences.

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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If you look at the AI Mask button at right side of the toolbar, you'll see a red dot below it. This indicates that you've applied Generative Remove after applying an AI based mask. The issue isssue is easily fixed by using the Update  AI Settings option shown under the Develop module Settings menu.

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May 21, 2024 May 21, 2024

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I tried in a photo of my wife when she was pregnant. She's showing her belly. And the AI doesn't think is safe enough. Ok - but I then tried to add black on top of her and still didn't work, still thinks is unsafe? What are the workarounds?

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New Here ,
May 21, 2024 May 21, 2024

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I love the addition of gen ai to Lightroom but I have one minor issue. There is a clear outlined edge to anything I select after generation. The colors don't match and it's a harsh line. A feather option would be nice for the selection.

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May 21, 2024 May 21, 2024

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Generally works really well. The only issue I have come across that sometimes it randomly replaces objects, other times it removes them. How can I tell the software what to do? Most of the times I want to remove distracting objects.

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Adobe have provided answers to the most common questions at below link.

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/using/generative-remove-faq.html

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May 21, 2024 May 21, 2024

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When I try to eliminate a powerline, or powerlines, with an aurora as a background, AI remove gives me ... powerlines in the fill.

 

Heal is already poor at this; there is too much bleed and this is an *exasperating* chore, but AI remove does not work at all, before or after the recent update (just updated today before trying again).

 

You would think that powerline removal would be working well in many use cases by now, but LR is just as bad at removing powerlines over aurora today as it was the first time I tried it when Heal was first implemented.

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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With AI Remove, you need to ensure that the entire powereline is selected/masked. If you leave anything unselected/masked, then there a high probability that the powerline will be replaced with itself or similar. I've attached an example of a failure and success below.

 

before-after.png

 

 

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Participant ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Show me how?

 

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May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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I think part of the problem here is that the server is seeing the edges of this image before the fisheye correction is applied.

 

It performs better, ish, with the fisheye correction removed. But not what I would call "well." Maybe a satisfactory result after an hour or two of fiddling around.

 

I can sort of understand cropping being ignored by Remove, but I can't get on board with lens corrections being ignored, especially if I'm on Olympus.

 

One of the things with photographs of the night sky is that it has constellations, many of which are immediately recognizable even to the most casual of stargazers. So you can't just whip a huge brush over the powerline mess, as it will put stars where they don't belong. A missing star or two is no big deal but a made up sky is a non starter.

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Bien meilleurs résultats que l'ancien correcteur de lightroom mais,  pour moi,  quand même en dessous du niveau de l'outil supprimer de Photshop

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May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Excelente! Muy oportuno para mi!!!

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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hi, right after installing the new up date with AI, my lightroom started to freeze and I can't use object removal - I've never had it before - PS and LRC always worked correctly

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May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Selection of the healing process turns the display into a negative line drawing similar to what is used for dust removal.  Cannot use any of the healing function in LRc now.

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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It would seem like you have Visualize Spots enabled. Make sure that it is unchecked as shown in attached screenshot.

 

visualise spots off.png

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Same with me: When I activate the Tool Overlay, the picture looks like a negative b/w drawing. Usually the Tool Overlay should turn the marked area into a red shadow. Or do I misunderstand this function and I'm lost in translation? O:-)

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May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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I have tried selecting the sky - not using the sky mask, and replacing sharp but a bit hazy 80% cloudy sky, and all the suggested replacements provided very unsharp/out-of-focus clouds.

This also got me to thinking that it would be nice to be able to use the masking tool and Replace tool in combination.

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Awesome new tool in Beta. Love that this has been added to Lightroom, as I seldom go to Photoshop with my current workflow.

 

Could you add the feature to fill edges of an image as it currently doesnt work with this tool and clone is the closest but doest work well with graduated backgrounds. I have a smaller studio and often the background isnt big enough and I have to fill these in.

 

The other tool request is generative expand in lightroom then I think it would be ideal for me.  

 

Keep up the awesome updates and improvemnts 🙂

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May 21, 2024 May 21, 2024

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As you know recently Adobe published a new version of Adobe Lightroom Mobile. As a photographer i find a chance to try new version of Lightroom on my iPad. I liked new AI remove feature by the way. But there is an issue regarding, maybe a bug. Sometimes Lightroom "transfroms" the object instead of removing it. For example i have a policeman in a pic and i tried to remove it but software changed it to another Chinese policeman. Funny, but harassing. Maybe a code fix can solve this.

 

Thank you !

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Ensure that you've selected the entire object you're trying to remove, along with a little bit of space around it and with its shadow. If you leave a bit behind, the AI tries to rebuild around it. For example, if you remove a bird but leave its shadow, you end up with a different bird.

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Victoria - The Lightroom Queen - Author of the Lightroom Missing FAQ & Edit on the Go books.

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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I guessed something similar. Thank you for your contribution, i will check it out..

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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I tried it everything literally what you said. Unfortunately, it makes it what i just said. Most of the time the tool is good. But, for some objects, it doesn't work properly..

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May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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In that case, if you tap the Early Access button, you can send Adobe feedback along with the image so they can improve it further.

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Victoria - The Lightroom Queen - Author of the Lightroom Missing FAQ & Edit on the Go books.

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