Slow applying metadata updates

Report · Jun 02, 2024

I have seen posts about the windows version, but I am echoing that on the Mac (m1 max) that Lightroom Classic 13.3 has become incredibly, painfully, awfully, terribly slow. Its gotten to the point of being frustratingly unusable. This seems to affect every aspect of using it from applying metadata updates to moving through pictures. Other than downgrading back to the old version (if possible?) has anyone found any other solutions?

Report · Jun 02, 2024

Are you syncing with the LR cloud? If so, pause it and see if that improves the situation.

Report · Jun 02, 2024

I second this... M1 Max here. Importing photos that are in a folder on the SSD and building smart previews is incredibly slow.

Report · Jun 04, 2024

Updating the OS (to Sonoma 14.5 in my case) did the trick for me.

Report · Jun 05, 2024

13.3 has been a disaster for me. An edit of a small shoot that should have taken 20 minutes turned into 3 hours.

writing metadata, generation previews turned into a crawl. Caption text is missing (probably because writing metadata is slow). I have a M1 iMac with 16 GB RAM. Contacted Adobe, I downloaded 13.3.1 but it does not fix the issues. Adobe customer rep suggested to get full access to my computer. Been using LRC since the first beta. Never and update has been so broken. I only have the catalog for 13.0. I reverted to that with some minor improvement. It is extremely frustrating.

Report · Jun 05, 2024

I am seeing the exact same issue with a client M1 Macbook. As soon as we updated to 13.3 everything ground to a painfully slow halt.

OS is already 14.5 so that didn't help. There is clearly a compatibility issue with the M1 Macbooks and LrC 13.3

Report · Jun 07, 2024

same here it's slower exporting on M1 Pro and sonoma 14.5

Report · Jun 07, 2024

I have a 2019 MacBook and over the past two weeks (since 13.3 update) it's gotten so bad I can't even use LRc and I have several jobs pending. It just took me 40 hours to do a job that should have taken me 6 hours. Every time I move a slider in the Develop panel it takes 2-5 seconds to actually show the change. Brutal. I will be getting a new computer asap but I see a lot of people with newer computers having similar complaints.

Report · Jun 07, 2024

@Birddogs, please do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.

Report · Jun 07, 2024

Lightroom Classic version: 13.3.1 [ 202405311538-6d7c0308 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-US
Operating system: Mac OS 14
Version: 14.5.0 [23F79]
Application architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 12
Processor speed: 2.9GHz
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Power Source: Plugged In, 100%
Built-in memory: 32,768.0 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 2,763.2MB / 4,096.0MB (67%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 32,768.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 17,398.7 MB (53.0%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 78,254.4 MB
Memory cache size: 461.3MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.3.1 [ 1889 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 1235MB / 16383MB (7%)
Camera Raw real memory: 1498MB / 32768MB (4%)

Cache1:
Preview1- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0235.CR3
Final2- RAM:166.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0236.CR3
Final3- RAM:166.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0238.CR3
Preview4- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0231.CR3
Preview5- RAM:40.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0239.CR3
Preview6- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0242.CR3
Final7- RAM:193.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0237.CR3
Preview8- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0234.CR3
Preview9- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0232.CR3
Preview10- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0240.CR3
Preview11- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0241.CR3
NT- RAM:719.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, Combined:719.0MB

Cache2:
m:461.3MB, n:794.8MB

U-main: 138.0MB

Standard Preview Size: 2048 pixels
Displays: 1) 3360x2100

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: AMD Radeon Pro 560X
Init State: GPU for Image Processing supported by default
User Preference: Auto

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Users/keithlawyer/Pictures/Lightroom/Lightroom Catalog-v13-3.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/keithlawyer/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Topaz Photo AI

Config.lua flags:

Report · Jun 11, 2024

Any suggestions?

Report · Jun 07, 2024

I have just upgraded (!) to 13.3 from 12, and after 9 days the sync update finished and I'm trying to edit photos. It's taking more than 20 seconds for the colour flag to be set when I type '6'. This is on a 2022 M2 Max Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.4.1. This is simply unacceptable.

Report · Jun 10, 2024

A week later and a bunch of other people seem to be experiencing these issues with no fix from adobe. Very disappointing. (Now on 13.3.1) turning off write changes to XMP does speed things up a bit but it still is significantly slower.

Report · Jun 11, 2024

I downgraded to 13.2 and it is better, but nowhere close to LRC 12. I had a copy of the catalog for LRC 13.2 but not for 12

Exporting, writing to metadata, displaying adjustments in the quick develop takes forever.

Sometimes I change the profile from Adobe Standard to Adobe Portrait to a selection of 200 images, and some still have the Adobe Standard profile when i edit them individually.
So many issues and slowdowns.

Adobe Customer Support wanted full remote access to my computer to check the catalog. But I do not feel comfortable at that. My main catalog is 16GB, and CS rep said they can not allow uploads of such size.

I have been ol LRC since the first beta and this has been the worst upgrade. I can not use LR CC as an alternative, as the caption field is only one line, and I can not enter directly descriptive captions that include what/when/where and credit as required by my editorial clients.

The CS rep said in the chat conversation that the AI smart features of LRC 13.x use more resources. Some of those features are nice, but make the overall workflow slow, buggy and prone to mistakes.

Adobe should provide a tool to downgrade a catalog that was upgraded to LRC 13 back to LRC 12. The sooner the better, as I shoot every week for work.

LRC 13.3.1 was marginally better than 13.3. But 13.2 is better than 13.3.1.

Also I find unacceptable that a point upgrade, from 13.2 to 13.3 requires updating the catalog file. Only major releases should require that. My M1 iMac felt pretty fast editing videos and photos until LRC 13..

I turned off Auto Upgrades.

Report · Jun 13, 2024

Having the same issue, I've loved LRC for years, but this is impossible to work with. Really at my wit's end with this right now, this job I'm working on right now should have taken an hour tops, it was taking so long last night I fell asleep waiting to move from one picture to the next

Report · Jun 13, 2024

After updating to 13.3.1 I’ve been encountering more and more slugginess. Working on the first few photos is okay but then it becomes very slow. At a certain point, I got a system message that I ran out of system memory. So I had a look at the memory usage and you can see it go up by the second. So by the looks of it, there is a big memory leakage. I went from 5 to 30 GB memory usage in about 10 minutes, without doing anything in Lightroom Classic. Just open in the background. It makes it totally unusable 🙁 (iMac 27″, 2020, i5, 40GB RAM)

Report · Jun 13, 2024

@olgav56290124: "iMac 27″, 2020"

Please do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.

Report · Jun 14, 2024

I can in this window see the RAM usage goes up while doing nothing...

Lightroom Classic version: 13.3.1 [ 202405311538-6d7c0308 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-DE
Operating system: Mac OS 14
Version: 14.5.0 [23F79]
Application architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 12
Processor speed: 3,1GHz
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Built-in memory: 40.960,0 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 1.987,7MB / 4.080,0MB (48%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 40.960,0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 14.116,2 MB (34,4%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 84.999,8 MB
Memory cache size: 379,3MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.3.1 [ 1889 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 526MB / 20479MB (2%)
Camera Raw real memory: 613MB / 40960MB (1%)

Cache1:
Final1- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, 900ADDB9-0ED9-44AB-94B9-74B820CE0A97.dng
Final2- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, AAE12006-9654-4503-B5E2-3942AE98B595.dng
Final3- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, 003F1DB4-B04C-424A-AA5D-31859BB7EAB9.dng
Final4- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, 505131DA-4EE1-4862-AA42-493C9329639E.dng
Final5- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, 318BBF76-F2B2-47C0-BB66-F4B6F7AD3FED.dng
Final6- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, 414BC027-CEBD-4D6F-ACE5-7F6E9100F644.dng
Final7- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, 3B709757-72AC-4C67-B65B-34F94E176997.dng
Final8- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, 6F2FB302-0829-41CB-80AA-BF8DB50802C8.dng
Final9- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, 863CE497-5D97-413F-A150-B7FE5D8752E7.dng
Final10- RAM:115,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, B602E2B9-6530-4946-807B-2A622AD61EBD.dng
Final11- RAM:37,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, 3E494C04-9BB2-4E38-9741-34432919B3CF.dng
NT- RAM:485,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, Combined:485,0MB

Cache2:
m:379,3MB, n:406,9MB

U-main: 130,0MB

Standard Preview Size: 5120 pixels
Displays: 1) 5120x2880

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: AMD Radeon Pro 5300
Init State: GPU for Image Processing supported by default
User Preference: Auto

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Volumes/V-STUDIO Photos disk/Lightroom/Lightroom Catalog-v13-june24.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/bobvanooik/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in
3) DxO PhotoLab 5
4) DxO PhotoLab 5 Importer
5) DxO PureRAW 3
6) DxO PureRAW 3 Importer
7) DxO PureRAW 4
8) DxO PureRAW 4 Importer
9) Flickr
10) Lightroom to Exposure
11) Nikon Tether Plugin
12) ON1 Portrait AI Standalone 2021

Config.lua flags:

Report · Jun 14, 2024

Same issues here. LrC is very slow, almost unusable for me (with LrC 13.2 averything was smooth on my MBPro M2 Pro). And syncronization is impossible to use. The Classic doesn't sync anymore and the mobile version is very slow and made a lot on sync issues. This is simply unacceptable.

Report · Jun 14, 2024

I shot an event last night. about 600 photos, culled to 300.
It took me hours to edit.

- moving a folder with 70 images was slow.

- writing metadata a crawl.

- Quick develop adjustmentsn on multiple photos (around 20) would take a very long time to show up. making me make mistakes (make cooler, decrease contrast, increase shadows etc)

- Standard previews take a very long time

- Exporting 300 files is so slow and buggy "preparing export" dialog proceeds very slowly.
- In the Develop module, I edit one photo, clich on another one on the film strip and the photo does not change to the one I selected.
- Saving metadata is stuck

- Syncing a folder of photos to the cloud gets me the message " you need to enable syncing" dialog box even if cloud syncing is enables.

SO MANY BUGS. this is unacceptable. LRC is worse than a buggy beta. Paying customers should be respected. I wasted too many hours lately on edits that should have been completed in 30 minutes

It must be a nightmare for wedding photographers who shoot 3000 images to edit this way.

It is unacceptable. I went back to LRC 13.2 which is faster than 13.3

Adobe should create a leaner version without all the AI stuff that slows it down and in the meantime a way to downgrade a Catalog and Previews to LRC 12.5.

"

Lightroom Classic version: 13.2 [ 202402141005-bf1aeb84 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-US
Operating system: Mac OS 14
Version: 14.5.0 [23F79]
Application architecture: arm64
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: NA
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Built-in memory: 16,384.0 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 281.3MB / 10,922.6MB (2%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 2,654.0 MB (16.1%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 425,977.6 MB
Memory cache size: 161.6MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.2 [ 1763 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 759MB / 8191MB (9%)
Camera Raw real memory: 760MB / 16384MB (4%)

Cache1:
Preview1- RAM:44.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, _DSC4002.ARW
NT- RAM:44.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, Combined:44.0MB

Cache2:
final1- RAM:189.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, _DSC4002.ARW
final2- RAM:188.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, DSC_4369.NEF
final3- RAM:189.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, _DSC4057.ARW
T- RAM:566.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, Combined:566.0MB

Cache3:
m:161.6MB, n:71.3MB

U-main: 217.0MB

Standard Preview Size: 2880 pixels
Displays: 1) 4480x2520

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: Apple M1
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: Auto

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Volumes/4TB Crucial X8/LR cat from RAID/TRAVEL Pix-v13.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/stefvik/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in
3) Export To Your Flickr Account
4) Flickr
5) HDR Efex Pro 2
6) Nikon Tether Plugin

Config.lua flags: None

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Report · Jun 14, 2024

I use Windows, and my LR Classic gets sluggish when I add a few masks.

Report · Jun 17, 2024

Just to add another data point, I now have several clients with M1 Macbooks who are all seeing the exact same MASSIVE slowdown under 13.3 and 13.3.1.

Rolling LrC back to 13.2 brings performance back to normal on thsese units.

Here's the System Info from one of the affected units:

Lightroom Classic version: 13.3.1 [ 202405311538-6d7c0308 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-US
Operating system: Mac OS 14
Version: 14.5.0 [23F79]
Application architecture: arm64
Logical processor count: 10
Processor speed: NA
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Power Source: Plugged In, 100%
Built-in memory: 16,384.0 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 3,193.7MB / 10,922.6MB (29%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 2,897.2 MB (17.6%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 428,909.5 MB
Memory cache size: 368.2MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.3.1 [ 1889 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 1840MB / 8191MB (22%)
Camera Raw real memory: 1840MB / 16384MB (11%)

Cache1:
Final1- RAM:165.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, _5000607-Enhanced-NR.dng
Preview2- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240418-_Z081035.NEF
Final3- RAM:151.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240417-_Z080468.NEF
Final4- RAM:151.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240417-_Z080837.NEF
Preview5- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240424-_Z084185.NEF
Preview6- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240504-_Z086963.NEF
Preview7- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240422-_Z087080.NEF
Preview8- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20221026-500_2299-Edit.tif
Preview9- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240424-_Z084190.NEF
Preview10- RAM:22.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240424-_Z084188.NEF
NT- RAM:621.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, Combined:621.0MB

Cache2:
m:368.2MB, n:622.5MB

U-main: 610.0MB

Standard Preview Size: 3840 pixels
Displays: 1) 3840x2160

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: Apple M1 Pro
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: Auto

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Users/eilishneff/Pictures/Lightroom/Lightroom Master Catalog-v13-3-May'24.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/user-name-redacted/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in
3) DxO PhotoLab 5
4) DxO PhotoLab 5 Importer
5) Epson Print Layout
6) Flickr
7) HDR Efex Pro 2
8) Nikon Tether Plugin
9) Plugin Parameters
10) SmugMug
11) Topaz Photo AI

Config.lua flags:

2022-10-13 - 2022-10-27
2024-04-17 - 2024-05-04

Report · Jun 18, 2024

I suggest we all contact Adobe customer service and submit a ticket.
I reverted to LRC 13.2

Another issue with 13.3 was that sync error with the cloud could not
have addressed in the preference panel, but only on the web, as far as
I remember.

It is unacceptable that paid software that many use professionally has
these issues.

- we should ask Adobe to provide a tool to downgrade catalogs. In the
meantime an update without all the AI tools that supposedly slow down
the performance. 13.3 feels like beta software that is extremely
buggy.

stefano

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Report · Jun 21, 2024

I have experienced the same. I am running Lightroom Classic 13.3.1 on a MacBook Pro with a 2.6 GHz 6-core Intel Core i7 processor and 16 GB and OS Sonoma 14.5. My son, who is a computer engineer, checked my system stats against the requirements for running this version of Lightroom and says I should be OK. Creating a mask using the brush tool is almost impossible as the brush stalls and stutters as I'm trying to paint. Annoying! I'm not sure what to do. Should I roll back to a lower version?

Report · Jun 21, 2024

@Lynn Noelle, as a first step, please do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.